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The European Commission says it is investigating Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos for potential child safety Digital Services Act (DSA) violations “as a matter of priority”

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Pro@programming.dev⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_25_1339

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  • Menschlicher_Fehler@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The Internet is not a place for children, stop trying to make it one and make parents responsible again for the things their kids consume.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Exactly. Let them access specific sites you trust as they need to, and monitor their use. As they earn your trust, teach them how to avoid the worst of it and let them go on their own more and more.

      That’s how anything works with kids. Monitor them as they do something new, then let out the leash as they earn your trust, until they no longer need the leash.

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    • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Well yes, but…

      Loads and loads of parents simply aren’t fit to fit the description. There are loads of idiots out there that just don’t care that their five year old watches porn. Then there is the class of idiots that think their little angel would never do such horrendous things, they’re with God, didn’t you know?

      As an aside, I’m really curious as to what the deleterious effects are on kids, say, 12+ that watch porn. I was a kid like that over 3 decades ago and though porn wasn’t as readily available as it was today, I remember watching the encrypted porn channel for the eventual boob flash, or the mosaic channel that would show 20x20 px porn. Actual porn from BBS-es (pre internet dial in systems) came into my life at about… 15-ish, I’d say, and it didn’t affect me negatively whatsoever.

      I’d definitely would like to see the difference between the effects on kids watching porn vs kids watching ultra violent movies or even real violence online. I’d wager the latter being more harmful than porn (be it porn combined with well designed sex education in schools, so good with that US kids!)

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      • HotCoffee@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        True but if we take bad parenting as a design point then we might as well ban 80% of all things in the world. Forks, knives, power outlets, glue, sharp furniture corners… Baths, what if your kid drowns cus of bad parenting.

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      • Rin@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        There are loads of idiots out there that just don’t care that their five year old watches porn

        Yeah but we’re not making knifes plastic because some little Darwin Award winner might trip and fall playing with it when their parents are not doing their duties.

        Louis Rossman talked against the idea that people are dying because they can easily cancel their security subscriptions. Here’s a little transcript. It’s a little off topic but I find that it works in this case because you can subsitute this for covid lockdowns or even the topic of children getting a hold of gross content like porn or violent content.

        now one of the things that bothered me back in 2020 and one of the things I talked about with Andrew Kuomo is when he said something that I found to be demagoguic in nature when he said “If it saves even one life right?” And the reason that that bothered me is not because I don’t care about saving human life it’s not because I am not willing to go out of my way and do everything humanly possible to help all those around me it’s because that standard ignores all negative externalities

        In the vain, I might sound like an asshole but i’m not willing to protect 1 child in a way that will make the internet worse for millions of people.

        Spoiler'd: consider this your cw/tw. I don't want to trigger people and if you're squirmish might be best to avoid.

        > kids watching porn vs kids watching ultra violent movies or even real violence online i’ve had access to porn since i was 8. My friend used to send me isis beheading videos over skype. Used to lurk on /b/ for rekt (basically “watch people die”) & porn threads. used to play violent vidia (gta/postal/cod/shooters generally etc) at the time too. I’ve seen all of the above and I turned out fine, i guess. I’d say i’ve experienced more trauma with my love life and relationships with the backstabbing/games/gas lighting/taking advantage and calling it love. I think that fucked me up more than any content on the internet ever did. Heck, i don’t even rememeber my worst relationship because my just brain blocks it out. or maybe there’s just something wrong with me that even I don’t know about as a result of what I saw as a kid. i mean, I honestly don’t know. i wonder if this makes me an interesting resesrch specimen tho lmao please keep in mind that this is just my experience and doesn’t make for a good argument for or against legislation of the internet.

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  • CritFail@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Or, you know, parents could actually use parental controls.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Or actually monitor their kids’ internet use.

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    • aceshigh@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      But that would mean parents would have to learn something new. Nah.

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    • gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      If only parental controls would work decently…

      But I agree, this should be a matter of education and the parents should be present and educate their children.

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    • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      and actually be parents for once

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  • Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Nothing disgusts me more than Puritans.

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  • surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The fascist censorship regime is just ramping up their efforts in Europe. The Nazis took over again.

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    • gian@lemmy.grys.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      In most of EU there are laws that forbid minors to access some products (like, you cannot sell alcool to minors). Don’t see as fascist to make those laws respected.

      I mean, if a minor buys a liquor from a store and it is caught, the store pays a fine (or it is temporary closed or whatever the law says), why should be a company that sell pornography (or enable to watch it) not be responsible the same way ? Just because it is on internet and it is a US company ?

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      • surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yes, I am familiar with the ‘think of the children!’ Trojan horse tactic.

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      • MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Meaning, the parents shouldn’t let the child buy stuff on pornhub?

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  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’ll bet they are!

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  • UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Good thing there are no actual problems to solve…

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  • Lembot_0002@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Hey, teacher, leave the kids alone!

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  • atlien51@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Holy shit what? TLDR someone pls

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  • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    So not just I have to use Tor in Russia for those, but I’ll also have to use non-EU exit nodes. Thank you morons.

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I can’t believe the EU would be so inconsiderate to Russians like that.

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      • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yes! Ignoring their main realistic purpose

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    • coolmojo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      And not the American states were mandatory age verification is the law.

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