Submitted 14 hours ago by can@sh.itjust.works to fediverse@lemmy.world
cross-posted from: lemmy.one/post/27858506
This post serves as notice that Lemmy.one will be shutting down in 90 days.
Unfortunately, the moderation features in Lemmy never progressed to the point required to continue maintaining this service, and Lemmy simply does not have the userbase to justify the cost of this service. Myself and the moderation team apologize for the inconvenience this will cause.
This is sad news. Hopefully the comms can migrate to other smaller instances.
Thanks for the cross post.
Citations needed on mod tool complaints. I mod one of the largest communities on Lemmy. In 2 years I’ve had around a couple dozen times that required actual mod stuff. The tools are perfectly adequate for the volume of users in my opinion.
We all took it a little hard when some regular users left. I get that. There will always be people coming and going for various reasons.
There is also always an issue with narcissists that tend to get involved with moderating for the wrong reasons.
All humans are lazy at times. And all of us have a right to pick up an leave if we choose. Blaming the tools as a scapegoat for one’s laziness, or inadequacy, or to mask one’s financial limitations, seems to me like a narcissistic way to toss in the towel and check out, like an attempt to drag others down too.
I wish those that want to leave all the best, and I’ll still be here hanging around if you ever want to come back, friend. Regardless , thanks for what you contributed to this place in the time we spent as digital neighbors.
The biggest one is that there needs to be a distinction between mod report and ijstance admin report
Fully agree. Make issue, open bug bounty if you wish. Ask your community for donations or plain make a paid service so you can handle finances. Thats it. Of course things can always improve but that also requires that instances drive donations to the devs and are active in decisionmaking.
never heard of lemmy one
It originally set out to be just an account-hosting instance, at a time when the major instances with the big communities would be going down as usage surged from people leaving Reddit. This way it was more responsive and reliably online. They have <10 communities hosted on the instance.
Now that they’re out, lemmy.zero?
I’m a bit bummed as lemmy.one was my introduction to the ecosystem. :(
OTOH, when they were having server problems, I set up a kbin account, but left it when it became clear I could only use the kbin app to access it. Looks like that’s shut down now too!
kbin development has halted due to personal issues of the sole dev.
It’s since been forked as mbin as seems to be doing well. I too am waiting for stronger app support to truly compare.
I’m excited for both Piefed and MBin. Both projects are progressing rapidly and have communities that seem to have their heads and hearts in the the right places
That’s kind of sad but also isn’t surprising. They didn’t exactly put in a huge amount of effort to maintain it, nor did they put in much effort to grow it or make it appealing as a server for people to join.
That explains why despite it being around for a while I seem to have no opinion of it.
Any significant communities impacted? Scrolling through my subscriptions list and I don’t have any in my list.
!privacyguides@lemmy.one
Oh that is kinda sad.
Not surprised. Moderation tools have needed to be the top priority for a long time, and most of lemmy’s users don’t know how janky it is behind the scenes.
most
of lemmy’susers don’t know how janky it is behind the scenes
That’s technology in general
Fair point
Sounds like admin tools should be first.
Lemmy.world is poorly moderated. Double standards, bias, dog whistle, you name it
o7
Evolution is dumb in that it requires death.
It doesn’t require it, but it doesn’t not require it.
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 12 hours ago
Everyone thinks the moderation/admin features need to be improved. I’m curious which improvements people are really needing. Link the filed Github issues for them otherwise the feature requests don’t really exist, and I’d like to give them thumbs up reactions so they get prioritized more.
kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
Here are a few things off the top of my head.
Deleted accounts leave orphaned posts/comments, which still exist on the site but can be difficult for admins to find and remove: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/5525
Private message reports don’t go to all the right people: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4436
We should be getting some vote analytics in the future, which will be great. Lemmy seems to have a significant number of vote manipulation accounts that only exist to upvote/downvote in unison, but they are currently hard to find. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/5669
I really should open an issue to improve the reports queue. It’s tolerable if you mod an individual community or a smaller instance, but it is unusable as an admin on a really big instance like .world. There is no way to search or sort the reports. You can filter by posts or comments but then it only shows you 20 entries, which is a weird and unhelpful limitation. All reports have equal priority; there is no mechanism for users to flag reports that should be escalated to admins. And, if something is heavily reported, there is no way to batch resolve the reports after you address the issue.
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 18 minutes ago
I wonder, are you able to view these if you switch to “Chat” view?
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 9 hours ago
A built in auto mod is the largest thing. A way to say that this common pattern is spam and to block it system wide, right now we just don’t have that. A nice to have stretch goal would be to use some model to fight actual gore or csam material, which just doesn’t exist. A moderation dashboard would be great to see users with their comment history, vote trends, high level to see if a person just had an off comment that might be taken the wrong way, or if there is a trend of trolling behavior
These have been opened on the GitHub and either sit open forever or are just closed.
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 9 hours ago
does Reddit have any of these tools built-in? they sound cool, but they can also be built externally (I believe an automod exists?), and I would say correctly take a back seat to bug fixes
can@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
Unrelated, but deus ex randomized sounds like a great idea. It’s been so long I feel like I would have to replay the base game first.
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 9 hours ago
we have a game mode called “Zero Rando” (no randomization) that’s basically vanilla gameplay
the Randomizer had so many compatibility fixes, QoL improvements, and bug fixes over the original game, this ended up being really useful for new first time players
since you’ve played before we also have “Zero Rando Plus” which is the same thing, but also includes the balance changes we’ve made for Randomizer
and we also have “Rando Lite” and “Rando Medium” to get started with the randomization stuff before going up to Normal Randomizer or Full Randomizer
www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLZIQTa_kwZhBksj7Uzcah…
ripcord@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Unrelated, but Moby Dick was named after a real white whale named Mocha Dick, which was nicknamed after first being encountered near Mocha Island.