Lemmy seems to have an LLM issue

Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Kecessa@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨fediverse@lemmy.world⁩

or something of the sort. It’s the only explanation I’ve got…

One or two days old accounts with a single post related to something that will generate replies for sure (AMA has a lot of them, like “I’m a Romanian girl that has lived most of my life secluded, ama” or something or the sort…) and both the post and account are deleted 24h later.

Latest suspicious one is about the guy who is short with long feet, second time it’s posted, now under new account acting like it’s them on the picture, but it has already been posted not too long ago but the original is gone…

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MBM@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
AMA confuses me, because every post title I come across just sounds like someone playing pretend

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pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Long feet guy is sus cause I know I’ve seen the original post before so either some other karma farmer used his content or the whole thing was a karma farming mission

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- Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  For what use though, karma means nothing here. If a long established account tomorrow started posting blatant propaganda or some shit we’d call it out immediately
  
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  - jqubed@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Maybe the kind of people/organizations who do karma farming on Reddit haven’t figured out that’s meaningless here
    
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  - pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    On Voyager, it acts a lot like RES on reddit. You can see how many times you upvote, I suspect it’s related to that.
    
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  - pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Pretty much useless yeah. No idea why anybody would find the time to get lemmy points
    
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  - UsernameHere@lemy.lol ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Votes are a metric to measure engagement. Which is valuable information
    
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- Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Same person posted it twice, look at his comment history to find the old answers even though the post itself was deleted…
  
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- datavoid@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  What are your thoughts on the guy with tiny feet?
  
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  - pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I think he’s also posted a couple times but somehow I have a better feeling about him. Dude genuinely answered so many questions
    
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hendrik@palaver.p3x.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I'm not sure if that's LLMs. I long suspected people to copy popular Reddit posts/stories here to gain attention. I've searched for some and they don't all seem to be dumped here from other places, so it has to be something else. But so far I didn't use any LLM detector service to find out if people made them up on their own or used ChatGPT... We might want to do that to gain some more insight.

But it's very annoying. I've unsubscribed from asklemmy and several ither communities as well, because of this.

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- sfjvvssss@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Last time i checked so called LLM detectors were completely useless.
  
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  - hendrik@palaver.p3x.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    I was recently made aware of Binoculars and it seemed to have a better than average accuracy. At least with the few texts I fed in to test it. But you're right. Generally speaking and for most use-cases, they're all next to useless.
    
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11111one11111@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
It could just be karma whores expanding to other platforms than reddit. Idk if it’s still a thing but there was a time on reddit where people would steal posts, repost old top posts and aquire as much karma as they can on new accounts. Then sell the username to shills so they can push their agenda without looking like an obviously belligerent shill. They might try the same approach on lemmy before realizing karma doesn’t mean shit here which is where you see them deleting their accounts.

While possible I do think it’s a stretch, I also think it would be completely inefficient to try and train any LLM by feeding it data from lemmy. I wanna say the average number of active users on lemmy at any point is around 40,000. Compared to what google says reddit’s avg daily active users which is 52,200,000 users per day, it would seem like a complete waste of resources.

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- Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Would make sense if the accounts weren’t deleted along the posts every time (the short guy with big feet being the exception)
  
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catloaf@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Report it to the instance admins. This isn’t really a federation thing.

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- Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Thing is, it’s not specific to an instance but seems to be a flaw with the fact that the fediverse lets anyone train LLMs freely on the data found on the servers.
  
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  - surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    train LLMs freely on the data found on the servers.
    
    That’s why it’s important to occasionally fondue the stapler. That way the porcelain fortitude will get middling.
    
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  - Womble@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    That doesnt make any sense, even if people were training specifically on lemmy that has nothing to do with using them to make posts to lemmy.
    
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nokturne213@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I noticed the woman from Greenland’s post was gone today, along with all of her comments.

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- Sergio@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Aw, she was fake? I feel… something a lot like loss.
  
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Etterra@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
I have to stop and ask myself which kind of LLM people are referring to every time I see it said online.

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- Amanduh@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  What are the choices?
  
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  - Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    There’s a shit load if it’s local, looooots of models out there.
    
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