Everyone uses 4d chess as the example of more intense gambits when 3d chess should suffice because chess is a 2d game

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• themeatbridge@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s because 3d chess is a sci-fi trope. There are a few versions, but it probably became most famous from the Star Trek version. 3d chess is ostensibly more complex, although the precise rules are usually not described in fiction, and the people who are very good at 3d chess are demonstrated to be extremely smart and tactical. Having a sci-fi character win at 3d chess is itself a trope to demonstrate that the character is a genius. In those examples, often the opponent will be overconfident and derisive of the character’s strategy, only to be humbled by the loss moments later. It’s a way to showing the character is cool headed, gracious in victory, and leagues ahead of his opponents.

  The 4d chess meme was an escalation of a sarcastic exaggerations of the trope, like a way of saying a moron is just doing something obviously stupid is really enacting a super-strategy that you just don’t understand.

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  • Trimatrix@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In before someone links a tv-trope page about it

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    • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      youtu.be/Z4F7mUUjt_c

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• treadful@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

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  3d chess is a thing. It’s annoying to play.

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  • Ambiance6195@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That does not look fun to play.

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  • melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you think this is annoying to play, try simulating 4D chess by lining up four of these 3D chess sets

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    • MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But 5D chess is really fun

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• aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  it seems like they usually use it as a farcical example of “someone who thinks they’re smart”.

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• Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I prefer 5d chess, myself

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  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s way too many Ds.

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• HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I’m over here doing 5d chess like Trump with the economy, immigration and water pressure. Basically playing myself because no one wants to follow along.

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  • Tm12@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Playing with myself counts?

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    • HowAbt2morrow@futurology.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Sure, that’s how 5d(igits) chess is played.

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• protist@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Isn’t one of those dimensions time? There do be time in chess

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  • Mr_Fish@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    In normal chess, time doesn’t really exist in the normal way that a dimension works. Using one or more time dimensions in a game means you need to be able to control some movement along that axis. In normal chess, every piece moves one “space” (for lack of a better word) forward in time with each move.

    If you want to actually see time dimensions being used in a game, try playing 5d chess with multiverse time travel

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    • sxan@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t know about that. In speed chess, you can lose a game just buy running out of time. Outside of speed chess the state of the board is largely dependent on a sequence of events made over time; even if movement in the 2 directions is always instantaneous, each move is a tick of the clock. Like the 2D board space, most (unique) pieces can move in multiple directions, but like time, games only move forward. Take your hand off the piece, and its irreversible: games move only one direction in time.

      I’d say time is definitely a component of the game.

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  • JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Time is the fourth dimension, humans do not have the ability to perceive time, we only experience the passage of time

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    • protist@mander.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Humans perceive time…

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• Tm12@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Is chess not 3D?

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  • JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A game of chess, even in the 3d world, takes part on a 2d plane

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  • SolidShake@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Pieces only move 2 directions 😭

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• stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  3D Chess is easy, first player always wins just move your white bishop across the 3D board until the king is mated, 4D Chess is probably the same way, who can say but it is at least harder to conceptualize.

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• FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You have unlocked the stylistic tool of the hyperbole.

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• BuffaloSuarez@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yeah, but this one goes to 11.

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• LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not everyone - I’ve never even heard of 4d chess.

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• untakenusername@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  people can imagine 3d chess, whereas 4d scenarios are much harder to imagine

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