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Apple barred from Google antitrust trial, putting $20 billion search deal on the line

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨cm0002@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/03/apple-barred-from-google-antitrust-trial-putting-20-billion-search-deal-on-the-line/

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  • subtext@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Apple seeks search partner, must have $20 billion

    If this penalty sticks, Apple could be looking for a new suitor. Something has to be the default search provider in Safari and other Apple products.

    Does something really have to replace it? Why not a menu of options? Make the user choose something. If they choose Google, great! If they choose DDG, fantastic! Whatever it is, make it a choice.

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    • Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yes it has, they need their moneyss.

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    • WolfLink@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Wait hasn’t DDG been the default in Safari for a few years now?

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      • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        No, that’s like, the entire point of the article.

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      • vollkorntomate@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Users can choose it, but it isn’t the default

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  • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    I will be honest, say there’s a new law that says on every device, users have the initial choice to select between any search engine, they’ll probably choose google anyways because most of these people have grown up that way.

    Make a better alternative and people will come. Ddg is ok but it still is basically a reskinned Bing and Bing itself isn’t that good. Other search engines aren’t as polished yet either

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    • taladar@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Luckily Google is working tirelessly on making their own search product worse every year.

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      • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        It honestly might already be worse

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    • uranibaba@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I’m happy with Kagi. I feel like it is equal to Google in it’s prime.

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      • Engywuck@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Not many people want to (or can) shell out 10 $/month for a search engine. I’m not saying it’s pointless, I’m simply saying that few people would do it.

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    • Bubs12@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I switched from DuckDuckGo to Startpage and it has been much better. Problem is, Startpage is just a reskin of google without the AI crap and fewer ads so there is no real escape.

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    • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It has been proven to work, and the idea is not to make people choose others it is to encourage competition. How would you get your better product in front of most people if not for it being a requirement to be showcased. There are so mamy people using default everything on anything they have ever bought

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    • Pirata@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Some people are just starting to get their first iPhones and Macs TODAY. We’re not all old farts on the internet as much as we’d like to think so.

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  • IllNess@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    This is going to affect Firefox a lot more than it will affect Apple. At least Apple have options to shift money around. Firefox doesn’t.

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    • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Good! Maybe Mozilla can stop being shit and paying their CEOs tens of millions while looking for ways to enshittify Firefox.

      Googles money has ruined Mozilla.

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      • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        “A lack of money will prevent them from doing shitty things for money!”

        I get what you’re going for, but it’s likely googles money that has slowed down the enshitification process.

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      • Engywuck@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Indeed. But it seems one isn’t allowed to criticize Mozilla here, so prepare for downvotes or enraged replies m

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  • Goun@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Shit, how much is Google spending on these deals??

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    • pdxfed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The google annual cost to have Google as default search on iPhone is north of 20b, hence the number in the article headline. They also pay lots to Mozilla and others.

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Yup, hundreds of millions to Mozilla.

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