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Signal's Meredith Whittaker says AI agents doing tasks on users' behalf pose security and privacy risks and refers to their use as “putting your brain in a jar”.

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Tea@programming.dev⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyH7zoP-JOg&t=2852s

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  • IndianaJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well put

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    • qprimed@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      hero material.

      my family contributes $5 monthly to the signal foundation. consider doing the same if you are able.

      the entire family uses it personally and for business so its among the best montly contribs we make.

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      • Benjaben@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ve got one of those I’ve been meaning to re target for a couple weeks now, Signal is gonna be it for sure!

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      • IndianaJones@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Doing my part o7

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  • Calcifer@eviltoast.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “A computer can never be held accountable - therefore a computer must never make a management decision”. - IBM Training manual, 1979.

    So jazzed to live here in the future where we have AI making insurance denials and deciding drone targets! /s

    Good on her for standing against the Silicon Valley doom hype machine.

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    • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “The spreadsheet says do this so we’re doing it.” - My manager’s boss, 1994

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    • BlindFrog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Source on the quote?

      It’s so apt for our time @.@

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  • ArchRecord@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There are some things it would be nice to have a brain in a jar to do for me.

    I do not, however, want that jar sitting in an Amazon-owned server room somewhere, where they can modify the jar to change how the brain works.


    Take back your brain-in-a-jars from big tech! /j

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  • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It will be interesting tracing accountability when AI does something less than legal while trying to implement a legal command.

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  • kane@femboys.biz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is the primary reason I’ve not given agents more power than something extremely controlled (I.e. only a function to turn on/off the lights). As I was always concerned that these generational models might accidentally do something dumb or annoying, let alone something that might be illegal or harmful.

    I don’t really see how anyone would ask AI to complete something completely autonomously at this stage, without oversight.

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    • Fart@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Good for image classification and tagging to automate sorting all the images off my phone. Some fun chatbots to soundboard ideas off. Anything involving credit cards, bank details, personal info near the internet? That’s a big nope.

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  • arafatknee@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thanks for posting this. I haven’t heard her before. She knows her shit.

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  • lostbit@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    huh didn’t know she was this good looking. Also, fair points.

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    • Sanguine@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Do you qualify all women you meet this way or only those involved in your interests?

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      • lostbit@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Whats wrong with saying someone is good looking?

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    • clove@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Talk about irrelevant comment. Blocked.

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      • ruplicant@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        talk about a n irrelevant comment! you’re informing us you’ve blocked someone, hahaha

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  • JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Oh my god I haven’t seen Guy in years! He’s such a wonderful guy (heh). I think our last interaction was on Google’s G+. 😳

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    • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      guykawasaki.com/remarkable-people/

      He has a podcast, seems pretty good.

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      • qprimed@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        subscribed. thanks!

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  • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean shes not wrong, but imagine I use this to do my bullshit day job so I can work on what I really want to. I would totally use this to get some rube to pay me for a job while I GameDev or something. Or at least some excel sheet monkey could probably do that I know these can’t do my job.

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    • KotFlinte@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The problem being: Why pay you, if all they’d need is an AI agent?

      Technology like this will not be used by the workers to prevent having to do bullshit jobs, it will be used by employers to prevent paying people.

      In a world that lets everybody profit from the advances we make, that would be a good thing, but in the world I see us living in, that’ll just grow the gap between poor and rich.

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      • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Its out now. I’m talking about taking advantage of this toilet bowl before the last flush. We never got rid of Citizens United. We never controlled these corporations. As a people, we were content until just about this point as a whole. Unless everyone marches to DC. The tech bros are getting their little kingdoms.

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  • geography082@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why Signal is not in f-droid? Is there a statement from them about it? What I know is only in Google store . And talking to much about privacy and not being in a f-droid repo, is ironic

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    • electric_nan@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s available on F-droid through the Guardian Project repo.

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      • geography082@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes that’s correct, is listed in guardian project but with big red flags anti-featires, heavy thetered services with Google

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      • ruplicant@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        since when? that’s good news to me!

        the alternatives seem to be Molly on the main repo and Signal-FOSS on TwinHelix’s

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    • SkibidiSigmaRizzler@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They also offered their .apk directly through their site with an included downloader last I checked, but I would love it to on f-droid

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      • electric_nan@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Add Guardian Project repo. It’s there.

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    • ruplicant@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      actually, years ago there was a long drawn out drama about people in Signal’s team refusing to publish on F-Droid because of “security concerns” in Moxie’s time. IIRC they worked to take down builds on the main repo

      you can probably still find the old github threads with the lenghty discussions

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      • geography082@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I didn’t know, Thanks for the info . Well nowadays f-droid is a standard for privacy . They should reconsider

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  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We’re slowly developing artificial personas that interact with the world on our behalf, which we won’t even pay attention to until the police show up because one of them threatened to assassinate the president or something.

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