Submitted 1 year ago by ryujin470@fedia.io to nostupidquestions@lemmy.world
From its launch in 2018 until 2021-2022
I personally never hated it, I just prefer Steam, because it has stuff like dedicated game workshop, forums, screenshots, achievements, cards, etc. Even when I got something for free in Epic Games Store I would later proceed to buy it in Steam and play there to have all those features.
I bought Alan Wake 2 because I read it’s drm-free which is sort of true. I bought it and I even bought the deluxe upgrade only to realize the game will refuse to recognize the dlc unless it’s launched though the EGS launcher which I refuse to use. Conveniently they won’t refund game add-ons. Fuck Epic Games, they can suck a fat one.
Gamers are a bunch of entitled babies
But tell us how you really feel period
No, I’m saving it for therapy
Fuck Epic… And while I’m here, screw Valve as well. You own nothing from all these “Leasers”. If you truly want to archive, preserve, and hand down your games in your will to future generations, you will need GOG offline installers. I burn these on to M-Disc Media that is supposed to last hundreds of years!
I just can’t with Steam anymore… Social media is cancer, Mmos are just about preening about and showing off your fashion. Essentially all the amazing features and functionality of the Steam Client really isn’t needed for the Anti-Capitalist, grumpy old people that generally hate other people, companies, FOMO and silly achievements like I’m a fucking child again.
I can’t speak for anyone else but I can at least share why I didn’t care for it.
Steam already exists and there isn’t a lot I feel is missing from the Steam store. Not to mention there isn’t anything that Epic does better than Valve for their storefronts. Epic doesn’t provide any new value that Valve doesn’t. In fact I’d argue that Epic causes negative value for several reasons:
They essentially fragmented the PC market as now I can’t access all of my games in a single location. The same reason for example that I hate that Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, HBO Max, etc … exist. It just makes the overall experience less convenient and more expensive.
Several features that Steam already has working are either broken or missing in the Epic Store. Especially around the shopping cart, etc … I haven’t gone to look recently to verify if any of these have been fixed and probably won’t until the other points are addressed, if they even can be resolved.
There’s no level of trust with Epic compared to Steam. I have a massive Steam collection and Valve has shown time and time again that I can trust that my data is relatively safe with them. When was the last time you saw Valve in the media because of a data breach? When was the last time your Steam account got hacked. Epic is just new here so they haven’t had a chance to earn that trust.
Their motives for wanting to create a new store wasn’t to improve the customer experience. Instead it was to improve their bottom line. The court cases against Google and Apple prove this. If they at least tried to have a PR campaign to show how Epic is innovating compared to Steam especially for making the customer experience better, the Epic Store might have sit better with me.
Timed exclusives. Similar to point 1, but they were just trying to use their massive cash reserves from Fortnight to buy their way into the market rather than earn the trust of customers. This again resulted in fragmentation of the PC market.
Anyway, just my two cents.
They essentially fragmented the PC market as now I can’t access all of my games in a single location.
Devil’s Advocate: That’s just called competition. Apple could also claim that Google “fragmented” the smartphone market into two different OS.
Yes, but Google at least innovated and tried to increase customer value with Android. They also make better phones (from some people’s perspective) than Apple. I’ve seen nothing from Epic that tells me that their product is better than Steam. Sure they have free games, but that business model isn’t sustainable and for the non free games, why would I buy from them vs Valve? Sure, if I was a developer I might get a better deal with Epic, especially if I can sign an exclusivity agreement), but I’m not a game developer I’m a gamer just looking to play my games on my PC as easily as possible.
Plus, there’s all the cool stuff Valve has been doing for Linux gaming. All the effort into Proton, the steam deck, etc.
At this point, I’m sticking with Steam to reward them for investing in Linux.
Just add a non-steam game to your library. I do that with epic, gog, and even my emulated and modded games. All in one place with just a couple clicks
Oh, it’s still hated.
Epic couldn’t make a superior product, so instead they bribed lots of game developers to make things Epic exclusive.
On top of that, even after being around for years, the Epic software is missing tons of features that Steam has had for years.
Epic bleeds obscene amounts of money to build a separate set of infrastructure, rather than actually trying to improve things for gamers.
Don’t forget they scan your Steam directory and upload your localsettings.vdh to Epic servers at regular intervals along with a unique fingerprint of your PC.
so instead they bribed lots of game developers to make things Epic exclusive.
Fuck Epic. I just lost the ability to play rocket league because they bought the developers, ripped it off of steam, and now force you to agree to some wickedly invasive TOS to have an epic account.
They also immediately remove Linux support for Rocket League when they bought it, IIRC
It’s also the reason I have 100s of games on epic and have never spent a dime on epic. When I like a game I by it on steam.
I never even bothered to make an Epic account to get the free games. I have so many games on Steam and GOG already, and I do most of my gaming with a Steam Link on my TV.
stardust@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Epic made headlines when Metro Exodus that wss set for a steam launch and even physical copies had the steam logo suddenly got pulled for being launched on Steam. old.reddit.com/…/physical_copy_of_metro_exodus_fo…
Then came the bribes to not release on Steam. And from the DARQ dev turned out that also included GOG too.
medium.com/…/why-i-turned-down-exclusivity-deal-f…
Free games are nice, but that doesn’t guarantee affection when it comes to paying customers.