Sounds like free speech here in the United States. I understand Musk might now be consistent but I do welcome free speech on social media. If you don’t like it then block it & move on. It’s almost like Democrats search for things to get upset about. Really annoying cause free speech used to be something Democrats cared about & now they are pro-censorship & fascist just like Republicans. They thirst for violence against people that say something that offends them.
Why was there a pro-Hitler, Holocaust-denying ad on X?
Submitted 1 month ago by Cat@ponder.cat to technology@lemmy.world
https://forward.com/fast-forward/696532/holocaust-denial-hitler-ad-x-antisemitism/
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timewarp@lemmy.world 1 month ago
AstralPath@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Here’s some free speech for you:
Fuck you, Nazi-enabler.
timewarp@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Clearly your emotions dictate any logic you might be capable of someday.
Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
There are limits to free speech just like there are limits to other freedoms. For example: “The right to swing my fist ends where the other man’s nose begins.” IOW where harm is done. So the question becomes do messages like this cause harm? IANAL, but I believe that it would qualify as hate speech, which is widely considered to cause harm.
takeda@lemm.ee 1 month ago
It’s also important to distinguish freedom of speech (protected by the first amendment) from free speech (a made up concept meant to bastardize on the former and to allow social media post whatever they want anonymously, like this ad).
timewarp@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Hate speech isn’t a thing in the US & countries that have enacted those pro-fascist “hate speech” laws have since seen alt-right ideologies start growing at unprecedented rates.
There are over 50 years of case law on the subject. We can discuss prominent cases on it if you want, or heck why don’t you sue & claim it is hate speech, send me the docket number and I’ll eat my popcorn.
HarryOru@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I suggest you call the nearest mall and tell them you placed a bomb in there. It’s just free speech, it’s not like you actually put a bomb there, you’re just saying it, so it’s fine. If they don’t like it they just can hang hup and move on. I think it will be a totally fun and safe experience for you to try and that there will be absolutely no consequences for anyone involved, because that’s how free speech works.
Or maybe, I don’t know, you could pick someone you don’t like and start telling people that they’re a pedophile! It doesn’t even have to be true, it’s just free speech. You are free to say whatever you want! And if someone wanted to do the same thing to you, it should absolutely be their right to do so! Free speech for everyone! It’s literally free!
timewarp@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Your example is bad faith, but I assume you know that already. If it isn’t, then I really don’t know if I can explain to someone that lacks mental acuity about over 50 years of case law on the subject. There is even more case law on libel & slander, but it sounds like reading isn’t your forte. However, if you’re capable of reading then I suggest you do so. But go on & pretend to be ignorant, or maybe you really are & if so then come back after you’ve actually read & studied the decisions by the courts and we can discuss what you think they got wrong.
Freefall@lemmy.world 1 month ago
The world may never figure this out.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Because Elmo musk out it there, I presume? He is, after all, a neo nazi and he loves pointing at nazi stuff sooooo…
DrSleepless@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’ll give you three guesses
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
What’s up with the username (Nixon Groyper) ? I understand Groyper, but Nixon was a pretty okay president up until Watergate and very much not a Nazi.
I think it would’ve been funnier if the first name was Brandon, Andrew (Andrew Jackson and the trail of tears), or Franklin (FDR and Japanese Internment).
Maybe it’s a serious ad though, but in that case, why pick Nixon?
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Do you understand Groyper, though?
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Well, I understand what it means, I don’t understand the people who align themselves with it.
Allonzee@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m genuinely shocked it was taken down at this stage in our self-destruction
xc2215x@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Elon does not care.
sepi@piefed.social 1 month ago
Actually, he does care and enjoy nazis
cotlovan@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Because musk himself posted those ads, obviously.
What is the point of that article? Let’s associate everything negative on Twitter with musk personally because we dont like him?
Funny, I expected to find “Technology” posts here, not political activism.
MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Musk wasnt even elected
jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Out of curiosity, are any other state secretaries elected? (Canadian here, don’t know US system well.)
sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 1 month ago
If you think technology isnt analogous with socio-political development then you have definitely missed a huge point in the tech-sphere.
Technology is not your friend. It will consume you, destroy you, and ultimately replace you. Not in a philosophical way, but rather literal sadly.
It’s not a new thought, decades old.
If you do not want to be aware, please close your eyes. Life will eventually force them awake.