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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨WeUnite@lemm.ee⁩ to ⁨[deleted]⁩

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  • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How do I block CCP + American right wing propaganda that wechat have been promoting on my parent’s phones?

    If I block the domain, they just complain the “internet is broken” and then use data (their plan has unlimited high speed data).

    (Kinda funny how they are consuming two contradictory propaganda)

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    • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The CCP is right wing, so they’re getting a double-scoop of red-hued authoritarian desert. Nothing contradictory there.

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      • nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        i think they mean how the us right makes china out to be their number one enemy

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    • WeUnite@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is fascinating to me because it might be evidence that China is promoting right wing content to undermine America. I’ve never used to WeChat before but I know the app has a “news” feature. Is WeChat linking to external domains/IP addresses? I’m curious what kind of right wing propaganda are they seeing? Who is making it? Is it in English or Chinese or a combination?

      If you cannot deal with the problem by network filtering and blocking these strategies might be helpful: old.reddit.com/r/QAnonCasualties/…/good_posts

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    • konalt@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Does the propaganda cancel out or not

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      • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Nah, they want China to be “reunited” with Taiwan, and also doesn’t like Democrats because of the “migrant crisis”.

        Only reason why my US Citizen mom didn’t vote trump is because I told my mom to vote Harris because I invoked their fear of deportation by citing the Chinese Exclusion act 100 years ago. (I watched my mom filled fill the ballot)

        (Basically their mindset is: “Immigrant bad, unless its us” 🤦‍♂️)

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      • jewbacca117@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No, it just makes even weirder propaganda.

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    • JovialSodium@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This answer is completely untested and something I came up with while poking through my phone’s options. But it should work as long as the app in question uses your phone’s DNS settings.

      My Samsung phone a private DNS setting. Settings > Connections > More Connection Settings > Private DNS. This doesn’t seem to be bound to a specific connection on my device so I assume this value is used for any. I don’t know if this is available on all modernish android devices or iOS.

      One can set up a dns-over-https server such as github.com/m13253/dns-over-https/ and configure it to use a DNS server which is sinkholing those domains. Which it sounds like you already have setup.

      You’d have to have that public facing with a reverse proxy and a valid cert so they could reach it while on mobile data, so I don’t know that the juice is worth the squeeze.

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    • AtariDump@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Setup an always on VPN that connects them to their home network where those sites are blocked.

      Now it doesn’t work on cellular anymore either.

      Shout out to the PiHole software that makes DNS black listing much easier for ad blocking .

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      • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Pihole plus Pi VPN. Best thing I’ve ever done for my sanity. At least until google domains sold to squarespace, which suspiciously doesn’t support dynamic DNS.

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I finally, after much cajoling (and more importantly, after much increase in the monthly bill) got my parents to finally cut cable TV entirely. I even made sure they got Netflix as their streaming service so that they wouldn’t be exposed to any commercials.

    Now they sit around watching mostly OTA TV all day, with so many ads for medicine and mortgage scams and other old-people shit that I can’t fathom how they can even stand it, let alone prefer it.

    The one small comfort is that at least the local news in my area isn’t owned by Sinclair.

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    • WeUnite@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s smart! Take advantage of the fact that cable keeps getting more and more expensive and urge them to cancel it. No need to sneak and block Fox News this way.

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      • grue@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just don’t make the mistake of installing OTA antennas for them like I did. Put all the old black-and-white movies they want to watch on a Jellyfin server instead.

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    • dragonfucker@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In order to use Netflix, they have to choose what show they want to watch. People don’t like doing what they want. Making decisions about what they want is hard. People want to be told what to like, how to think, and how to live.

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      • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That’s some dystopiain stuff right there. Like a quote from the bad guy in a film who is both wrong and right.

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      • myrrh@ttrpg.network ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        “Freedom is a scary thing. Not many people really want it.”

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  • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Stop normalizing this and start normalizing filtering your parents internet with a Pi-Hole and blocking whole swaths of the right-wing ecosystem.

    Everyone complains about people wanting them to be the computer guy in their family but no one ever uses that to protect their family from misinformation and then blame it on their ISP.

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    • WeUnite@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Nothing wrong with doing both. I fully support using a Pi-Hole to block right wing misinformation/disinformation if the situation is appropriate.

      I should also mention in reality this is just a shitpost. In real life there is more nuance to these decisions. I have read stories about people who’s parents have been basically “gone” because of Fox News and other right wing disinformation sources and after blocking it they get their parents back usually within 6 months to a year. But it could also result in back lash. It all depends on the situation. I do feel strongly that Fox News should be blocked in hospitals and nursing homes (especially memory units) because it stresses out the patients and some of the content they ruin is directly contrary to a hospital’s mission.

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      • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Well I’d say the nuance here is that while it’s hard to break through when those ecosystems have a hold on them, and it’s hard to compete with them, being a censorial editor for them really only makes sense if they really can be considered not in their right mind and not have the capacity to think or care for themselves.

        I don’t really think censorship is the solution as much as finding a way to break the spell of whatever has overtaken right wing thought.

        I think the public right wing response to both Luigi Mangione and to Musk promoting H1Bs shows that while they’ve sucked down racism, on some level they understand that the corporate world exists to harm workers. They just haven’t found solidarity with the workers of the rest of the world yet, and it’s finding a way to crack that barrier and get them to see themselves in others. I think it’s very hard but not impossible.

        I think part of the problem is the nature of our media and how consolidated it is and how rare real independent news media is at the moment in this country. I think we’d do better to tackle that at a community level than we would to just outright censor it.

        Like, an example… You have a child and you want to know what they’re watching on television for their mental health. Is it better to watch those things with them and discuss the themes and ideas with them and help them contextualize it all in a healthy way or censor the things you don’t like and never discuss them so the child enters the world wholly without the knowledge of these subjects. I’d say based on personal experience that the latter doesn’t work out so hot for the kid.

        Censorship and control of information without discussion isn’t a good path, whereas openness and communication does.

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    • Turret3857@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Why shouldnt you ?

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    • ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This seems like a good place to start:

      github.com/antifa-n/pihole

      … In Minecraft.

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  • sad_detective_man@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    90 yr olds having finally kept america a hell-on-earth long enough to pass the torch to the new generation of racists who can’t operate a cable box:

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  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Plus they won’t notice.

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    • seathru@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Because they’ve already moved to Newsmax?

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      • WeUnite@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you were to block Fox you should also block other more extreme channels like Newsmax and OANN.

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  • jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Look, if they still have a cable box, they haven’t paid the bill in 25 years.

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  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Idk if they want to watch that I’d let them. If you don’t want them to treat you like a child (assuming you aren’t one) then you probably shouldn’t treat them like one. Adults can make their own decisions and mistakes.

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