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More than a quarter of new code at Google is generated by AI.

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Submitted ⁨⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Dot@feddit.org⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/29/24282757/google-new-code-generated-ai-q3-2024

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  • dan@upvote.au ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I really don’t believe the headline. Google writes a lot of code across hundreds of teams… There’s no way all of them are generating anywhere near 25% of their new code via AI.

    Unless they’re doing something like generating massive test fixtures using AI and classifying them as “code” 🤔

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    • 0x0@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I really don’t believe the headline.

      The The company had a strong quarter thanks in large part to AI. part is what makes it sound strange to me, sounds like shareholder egostrking.

      That said all they need to do is mandate use of AI during development like my company’s done and they can boast this kind of bullshit easily.

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      • aidan@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That said all they need to do is mandate use of AI during development

        Wtf does that mean? Like what if you know exactly what you want to do? Do you have to ask GPT to review your code?

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    • Shiggles@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How often does a solution need “new” code and not “basically the same code as a previous issue but with two small details changed”? This is a genuine question, I have only ever coded as a hobby. But 25% of your work being essentially just copy pasted sounds plausible, and that’s sorta all LLMs are doing, right?

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      • dan@upvote.au ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Reusable code is usually pulled out into a library and reused that way, rather than copied and pasted into a new project. You might copy and paste some boilerplate to new projects but it wouldn’t be anywhere near 25% of the code.

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    • FarceOfWill@infosec.pub ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I wonder if “code” means pull requests and they have a load of automated ones to update versions of external and internal libraries

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      • emax_gomax@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Given the size of lockfiles this would not surprise me but who the hell counts lock files code. Their barely configs :/.

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  • friend_of_satan@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Does this mean “AI was used as a fancy autocomplete”? Because that’s my number 1 use case for AI like copilot, and if that’s the case, over 25% of my code is written by AI. But let me tell you, it still gets it wrong, repeatedly making the same syntax errors no matter how many times I correct it. It starts to get it right, then later reverts to making the same syntax errors, even making up variable names that violate widely known public APIs.

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    • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Auto complete is about… 60% helpful and increases my productivity with about 5-10% as I need to double check everything it does and half the time it’s something ridiculously stoopid

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    • prof@infosec.pub ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Agreed. It’s really shit for new code, but if I’m writing glue code stuff or repetitive code it saves a lot of time spent on typing.

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  • realharo@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If they’re counting all the auto-completed code that’s inserted after pressing Tab, then I easily believe it.

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  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    25% of all new code written at all? Sure, I guess.

    25% of all new code that actually gets used in a real product, not just tested in an IDE? Bullshit.

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    • BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I wonder if they do the monkey writing shakespeare experiment but with code. If you keep letting it write code, something has to come out of it.

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      • DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You still need to check the hell out of it because AI is wildly unreliable.

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That would explain the decline in quality of everything from Google. Even Gmail is becoming buggy as hell, even though I haven’t seen any new features added. I have used Gmail since it’s founding and only in the last year or so did it become extremely buggy.

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  • friend_of_satan@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Awesome. How much more time off to google software engineers get? I guess it’s none.

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    • LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They just laid off a ton of them instead.

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      • Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        A quarter of them.

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  • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Now they can fill new holes at the google graveyard at twice the speed!

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  • hendrik@palaver.p3x.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I've read exactly the opposite article a few days ago:

    https://www.cio.com/article/3540579/devs-gaining-little-if-anything-from-ai-coding-assistants.html

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    • btaf45@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This company wasn’t trying to bullshit financial analysts which was the reason for the google CEO comment.

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  • Spacehooks@reddthat.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ah Elon most love all this extra code being written. If course it’s super inefficient but look at all those lines sooo much code.

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    • kamiheku@sopuli.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Are the lines salient though?

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    • btaf45@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How is Elon going to tell the AI to print its code on hardcopy and then fly to Elon’s city to show him your hardcopy code like he told actual Twitter developers to do?

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  • Bogasse@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Not disappointed by The Verge, first paragraph paraphrases the title with no source and the following is just off topic.

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    • Dot@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The source for first paragraph: blog.google/…/alphabet-earnings-q3-2024/

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      • baru@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ah, indeed:

        Today, more than a quarter of all new code at Google is generated by AI, then reviewed and accepted by engineers. This helps our engineers do more and move faster.

        Sounds like bs to me, comes across as marketing talk to promote their AI offerings.

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      • Bogasse@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Thanks ! ❤️

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Makes sense considering how shitty Google products have become.

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  • mEEGal@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    NICE TRY, AI !

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