Submitted 5 weeks ago by fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com to youshouldknow@lemmy.world
Why YSK: Locking your credit with the main 3 places is not enough.
innovis.com have grown enough to require locking as providers are using them as a single check source.
There’s also www.chexsystems.com which many banks use for opening checking accounts. They’re unique because they handle accounts that doesn’t show up in a credit report.
I’m not American. What is being locked?
Your credit, which is a fancy name for the profile that financial companies build on you to determine whether you are able to pay back loans. When you apply for a credit card, get a loan, rent an apartment, or buy a car, the seller will look at your credit to determine whether you are a risk of not paying and will use this info to set interest rates and payment plans.
Locking your credit means preventing these financial institutions from releasing your financial information to people who request it. This will prevent malicious actors from opening lines of credit in your name, but it will also prevent you from doing so as well.
Unfortunately in the US we can’t tell a single entity that we do not want this information released. We need to inform multiple entities not to release this info since they are all independent.
Oh. Man imagine if they had not privatized such basic public services…
In order to open a line of credit (credit card or loan), the lender will pull your credit record to determine your creditworthiness. The "big three" credit record companies being referenced are Transunion, Equifax, and Experian. Based on your credit "score" with one or more of those reporting agencies, the lender will approve or decline your request to borrow, and determine the interest rate they'll charge you.
"Locking your credit" means telling those reporting agencies, "Hey, don't let anyone pull my credit." Why would you want to do that? Because of identity theft. If someone gets enough information about you, they can borrow money using your identity, and never pay it back. This situation is a fucking nightmare.
By locking your credit, you gain a huge amount of control over anyone - including yourself - from borrowing from a lender. Each credit reporting agency offers this option, at no charge, and the lock can be temporarily or permanently lifted by you (login, 2FA, sometimes you can even specify a specific lender who is allowed to pull your credit while continuing to forbid anyone else).
It is highly recommended to lock your credit. Frankly, it should be locked by default. In September of 2017, Equifax announced a data breach that exposed the personal information of 147 million people. That's essentially everyone in America who can take out a loan.
OP's post indicates that there are at least two lesser-known reporting agencies that you should look into to secure your credit reports.
Each credit reporting agency offers this option, at no charge …
It is highly recommended to lock your credit. Frankly, it should be locked by default. In September of 2017, Equifax announced a data breach that exposed the personal information of 147 million people.
Note that, before this incident, it wasn’t consistently free. I remember it being free to lock, but costing $20 or so to unlock. A law passed in 2018 required credit bureaus to offer freezes and unfreezes (and to fulfill them within certain time frames) for free.
Also note that you might need to look for a “freeze” instead of a lock. Experian charges $25/month for their “CreditLock” service, for example, but they offer a free security freeze.
There are 3 major credit reporting bureaus in the US which take reports on every American’s credit worthiness. Every time an American makes a payment, that information makes it to the bureaus. And before a new account is opened, a lender will ask the bureaus for a copy of that person’s report.
When someone locks their credit file, they instruct the credit bureaus to not send those credit reports to lenders, which will prevent the lender from issuing the loan. They do it when they know that they will not apply for a loan, be cause it prevents fraudulent loans from being opened in their name.
A common practice of identity thieves here is to open up a bunch of new credit cards or other loans in other people’s names, and run up the charges before that person finds out about the account and has it closed.
Chexsystems is a special case, I know them as a clearinghouse to report people who write bad checks. But people are using checks less and less these days.
Locking your credit means that companies can’t do a “hard pull” of your credit report, which is done when opening a new line of credit (credit cards, loans, etc).
When it’s locked, even if someone steals all your personal information, they won’t be able to open a loan in your name.
I think they’re referring to a credit freeze for when your identity is stolen
This does apply in other countries, like the UK. But not all countries use the same companies.
I looked into it and so far it’s only in Québec.
The entire credit bureau system is so goddamn shady.
Damn I thought I was doing good having the 3 frozen. Good to know that new ones can just sprout up like that.
There are actually hundreds. It’s only important when one gets big enough that they become a single check point, instead of a secondary or backup.
Great. How many fucking heads of the hydra are gonna spawn until a law is passed preventing this. I hate dealing with 3 im not gonna bother with these smaller ones. Maybe ill freeze the innovis someday but 4 is absolutely all im willing to bother with.
There are actually hundreds. It’s only important when one gets big enough that they become a single check point, instead of a secondary or backup.
Thanks for the info. I’ve had my credit frozen at the 3 since the Equifax leak and now I gotta add this bullshit. Ugh.
Why YSK: Locking your credit with the main 3 places is not enough.
Someone explain to me what that means. You mean you have to ask different agencies when asking for a loan? Wouldn’t you just talk to the bank you want the loan from?
Basically all employers and financial services in the US use a top secret magic number assigned to citizens to identify them and create accounts. They also all use this number to involuntarily track us. The tracking services then hand out data dumps of our personal information (including the number) to identity thieves.
Now the only way to stop identity thieves from creating accounts in our name is “freezing” our credit report with the largest 3 (now 4) tracking services. If a financial service cannot look up the credit report, they won’t make an account.
This should help: www.usa.gov/credit-freeze
It’s a fraud prevention method to combat identity theft.
No, the loan servicer asks these agencies.
Thank you for posting this. I have the “big three” frozen, it’s good to know about this one, too.
Thank you. I wouldnt have known this if it wasn’t for this post. I’ve never seen these sites. Good post.
Doombot1@lemmy.one 5 weeks ago
Fun fact: you can’t lock your credit through Innovis if the name on your phone number isn’t the same as your real name (for instance, I’m on my mother’s phone plan - I still have my own number, but I guess it’s under her name). I ran into this issue literally four days ago :/
NegativeInf@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Is this because you need to provide a bill? Or just like the caller id?
Because if it’s the caller id, you can have that set on a per line basis. Worked for a cellular company. Super normal.
Doombot1@lemmy.one 5 weeks ago
I think it’s the caller ID. Should be easy, just have to get my mom to set it first.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 5 weeks ago
This wasn’t true for us. You can lock, but you have to request a credit report by mail with that issue. (Family member in this exact situation).
Doombot1@lemmy.one 5 weeks ago
Interesting, I guess I’ll have to try again. It kept telling me that there was an error processing when I tried locking it.
Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’ve been under my parents plan my entire life and I was able to lock my credit with Innovis. Granted, this was right after the Equifax breach. I’ve actually never had to unlock it.