It can’t emulate Reddit as long as tweet length is capped for free users
X weighs adding a downvote button to replies — but it doesn't want to emulate Reddit
Submitted 4 months ago by dvdnet62@feddit.nl to technology@lemmy.world
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Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Wait until reddit introduces that “feature”.
Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Mind blown, would you be interested in an executive position at Reddit. What other great ideas you got?
bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
Half the content is screenshots from Reddit which in turn are half the time just screenshots from Twitter. May as well just keep the train going at this point.
On a more serious note, downvotes seem to be never any good for any forum. I’ve yet to see them used as a “not contributing“ button or whatever other idealistic definition sites come up with. It is almost universally a disagree button and every community I’ve seen that gets rid of it is better for it.
ccunning@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Downvotes were one of my favorite features of Reddit.
Some stupid shit doesn’t deserve discussion and is best off being shut down.
bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
That’s not how it plays out though that’s my entire point.
Bassman1805@lemmy.world 4 months ago
While it’s true that the downvote often gets abused as a way to stifle otherwise-good discussion, without it it’s hard to deal with discussion that truly should NOT be happening.
There’s a reason election denial is more common and looks more legitimate on Facebook and Twitter. It’s because they don’t have a mechanism for people to nuke that discussion out of the top of the thread.
bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
Sure they can. Moderators/admins can remove comments.
I agree with you there is a problem of content moderation. But downvotes are not the solution and have never proven to be an effective deterrent. Removal/deplatforming is the only tool that has proven consistently effective. It’s why on a discord server i help run we have pretty much zero tolerance towards people who are sufficiently disruptive or have a chilling effect on conversations, even if they aren’t breaking the letter of the law. At some point you just have to get rid of these people or they cause a disproportionate amount of damage. It’s amazing what 5 people can do to a community of 500.
dogsnest@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I prefer slashdot’s moderation system over any of the others.
Here, I’d like to see limitless upvoting, but downvotes bottom out at -3.
This may reduce dogpiling whilst allowing the downvoted parent a better chance to be engaged-with, and more opportunities to present their points.
bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
I think a cap is a great idea. Or just don’t show vote counts and push down downvoted stuff at least. But showing them to people tends to produce dog piling and false consensus
Zak@lemmy.world 4 months ago
One of the things I like about Slashdot’s system is that it requires a reason for a downvote. Of course that doesn’t prevent people from downvoting disingenuously, but it nudges users away from downvoting just because they disagree.
I think for most social systems, the UI I’d use is a report or flag button that pops up a second step with a list of reasons, and like Slashdot, show the most selected reason next to low-ranked posts.
Fitik@fedia.io 4 months ago
Actually that's a golden idea, I haven't even thought about that, would love to see some software on here implementing a downvote cap
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 months ago
For evidence you’re right: see the downvotes on this comment. I’ve seen so many things downvoted that didn’t deserve it. People can misunderstand your comment and suddenly you’re at -20. Just a couple days ago this toxic fuck was telling me all sorts of weird things they claimed to know about me because I was downvoted for an opinion I wouldn’t have thought was unpopular at all. A couple people misunderstood, then a bunch more saw the downvotes and made false assumptions. It’s bizarre.
bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
It is what it is! I don’t even see downvotes on my end but not surprised it happened. It’s magic internet points so whatever lol
StarlightDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
Blåhaj doesnt have downvotes and I occasionally miss being able to down vote people replying to requests with something that someone specifically said they don’t want in the full-text. For other stuff, report tends to be applicable, particularly spam and racist trolls who just come to advertise or attempt to change the culture of Lemmy.
Fitik@fedia.io 4 months ago
I don't know if anyone remembers it, but Twitter actually had dislike as experimental feature for some users for some time before Elon, I think like 2 or 3 years ago, I remember having it on one of my accounts
News article from 2021 - https://www.pcmag.com/news/twitter-dislike-button-coming-soon-nope
rsuri@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yeah all that X can really do now for new features is roll out things that were half-built before Elon fired everyone.
bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
I like that everyone thinks it makes a difference whether or not this is a feature, when in reality people have a tendency to carve a desire path to anything they feel makes sense. Twitter may not have a downvote but they do have the “ratio” which does basically the same thing using the mechanics of Twitter.
T156@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Given the rumours surrounding the CEO of Twitter, and how he may have pushed for his account to be prioritised because the algorithm knocked it down for being blocked so much, this feature doesn’t seem like it has long for the world, unless he makes them add an exception for him.
simplejack@lemmy.world 4 months ago
nutsack@lemmy.world 4 months ago
jaemo@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
This is about that Twitter website people used to use right? Sorry, out of the loop here.
SeattleRain@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It desperately needs this. Very inflammatory tweets can get widely circulated by brigading with no real way to stop it even if it’s a wildly unpopular sentiment.
dog_@lemmy.world 4 months ago
They had them before. What makes it any different now?
SeattleRain@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’d prefer a filter for blue checkmarks.
jwt@programming.dev 4 months ago
I think they should go all in on emulating reddit. In fact, I think they should get more in line with the naming scheme of reddit, an re-rename their brand to X-it.
Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I didn’t even know x still existed
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
well they already have the nazis and csam…