Actually all higher primates do capitalism. Bonobos pay with food for sex, Chipanzees pay with support for a higher rank, Orangs pay with food for other orangs making them a bad out of leaves. I suggest to read Barterverse: Galactic Economics 1: Happy Existence
In this house we share the bananas
Submitted 6 months ago by STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world to aboringdystopia@lemmy.world
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Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world 6 months ago
bestagon@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Capitalism isn’t just the trade of goods and services
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
this here, original commenter’s take is the typical dumb take you hear from students of economy.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 6 months ago
a bad out of leaves
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TootSweet@lemmy.world 6 months ago
beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 months ago
I love this but anyone got a link to a site that isn’t paywalled or doesn’t force me to disable my ad blocker?
TootSweet@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Weird. It didn’t paywall me. You could try clearing your cookies or using 12ft.io. (12ft.io sometimes works for me.)
Honestly, I just vaguely remembered hearing about that experiment and when this post came up I googled (well, DuckDuckGo’d, but anyway) “monkey money experiment prostitution” and picked the first link that seemed to be about the experiment I’d remembered hearing about.
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 6 months ago
Aren’t pigeons communists
Holzkohlen@feddit.de 6 months ago
90% this is just an Alex Jones quote
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 6 months ago
I thought there was genuinely a thing with pigeons sharing things equally
undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It would have happened with people too.
We had to be broken into it and, by it, domesticated over hundreds of years. Now people can’t even imagine any other system possibly “working” (the exacts nature of the not working-ness of other systems is hard to pin down when we’re honest about those things also applying to capitalism).
The origins of the feudal system isn’t up for debate and we know it down to very fine detail. Hell, we can even tell the origins of some wild and obscure economic systems, not just, say, the roman slave economy. However, for some reason, were all expected to beleive capitalism just happened, as if by magic, out of no where.
Well, thats because you can’t teach the origins of capitalism, without it being a criticism of capitalism, and you can’t teach any criticism of capitalism in school either in the UK or the US.
It must be such a good and fair system to have to have its origins hidden.
pixxelkick@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Unfortunately this is false. They’ve tested this and monkeys establish captilasm extremely fast when they come to understand currency as a concept.
www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/503550
They would exchange the currency, steal it, gamble with it, purchase with it, and even do some prostitution for it.
alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
That’s not capitalism, that’s just a market.
It’s only capitalism when one monkey owns the means of production and starts paying another money a wage while taking the wealth they produce.
Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Orangs do that. One Orang is collecting food and giving to to another Orang building a bed from leaves.
Why? Because the first Orang is better at collecting food and the second at building beds.
De_Narm@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I vaguely remember reading about monkeys teaming up and beating others to death if they hoard too much ‘wealth’. If that’s actually true the meme is still kind of true.
yopla@jlai.lu 6 months ago
Basic leftist fantasy. :]
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
These are certainly words…
This take is insultingly dumb. As others have pointed out, trading goods for anything doesn’t equal capitalism.
Spitzspot@lemmings.world 6 months ago
“capitalism: an economic and political system in which a country’s trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit.”