Just like in the 70s and 80s when the Big 3 couldn’t make a reliable small car and the Japanese drank their milkshake.
Plus ça change, n’est pas?
China’s booming EV companies eye U.S. competitors they see as ‘not ready’
Submitted 6 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 months ago
1984@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Wait until they start with the “Chinese cars spy on you”. It was the entire argument why Huawei phones couldn’t even be sold in the US. Despite no evidence at all.
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Well, yeah? China is a hostile nation to us. The currently have over one million Uighurs in literal concentration camps as well.
They’re the Nazi Germany of Asia, and yet people don’t understand why we should stop trading with them since it will affect our sweet, sweet low prices.
1984@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Is there any country that is not seen as hostile to the US?
Aux@lemmy.world 6 months ago
US is a nazi Germany of the world.
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
I mean the best we got is Tesla. You see those damned things everywhere.
Theres been a ton of startups, but none of them are keeping up, or really trying to penetrate the market. Lucid was just aiming for the high end luxury segment. Fisker was dead on arrival. The only one thats really trying is Rivian, but theyre also focused on luxury, with some less expensive options years away.
Meanwhile, the big 3 are twiddling their thumbs. GM’s got their EV platform, but the only car they got is a Cadillac. The Bolt is discontinued. Ford has the Mach E that no one wants, and I dont know what the hell Stellantis is doing.
The Japanese are behind as well, with only a couple of options from Toyota/Subaru, Nissan, and does Mazda even have anything?
Really, it seems like its the Koreans who are putting up the best fight.
As long as Chinese EVs arent sold in the US, I dont see these companies really stepping it up yet.
FunderPants@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
I think you might be a little behind on Chevy EV news. The boltEV is back, the bolt EUV is around, the Blazer is electric and so is the Equinox.
Blaster_M@lemmy.world 6 months ago
… and the Blazer EV was immediately on recall because of showstopping bugs. They’re trying too hard to rush out a super high tech car when they need to make it more basic to start with.
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Rivian is not targeting luxury. All their company goals are about sport utility. They’re a little pricy though those new ones in the next few years look awesome price wise
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Rivian is not targeting luxury. All their company goals are about sport utility.
No luxury, just regular violence, waste, etc.
thejml@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I see tons of Mach E’s around here. Not as many as Teslas yet, but I see on average two to three a day, which tracks to Teslas about 2 yrs ago in this area. So give it a bit of time. I’d seriously consider one if I was in the market for a new car. I just wish they didn’t call a small SUV a Mustang. “Domestic” US manufacturers are catching up.
That said, I’d love a Chinese 10-15k EV as long as it passed US crash standards and had a decent warranty. Competition is a good thing.
ShepherdPie@midwest.social 6 months ago
The problem is that $10-$15k Chinese EVs aren’t competition as the Chinese government is paying the company directly for them to be that cheap. That’s in comparison to a country where the best companies get is a $7500 credit toward their purchase. I would absolutely support Chinese EVs in the US if they weren’t trying to undercut everyone with unsustainable subsidies just to put everyone else out of business.
Killer57@lemmy.world 6 months ago
We 100% need these cars to be sold in North America, fuck the current auto industry.
kameecoding@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Hyundai/Kia are already doing that, that’s why their issues are plastered everywhere ( especially on reddit and youtube) while something like Toyota having a worse recall just goes under the radar.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Toyota are also foreign and the biggest auto company in terms of numbers moved.
random_character_a@lemmy.world 6 months ago
How about saying the cars contain monosodium glutamate and it’s very bad for you.
nevernevermore@kbin.social 6 months ago
chinese EV's give me a headache
0nekoneko7@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Well, I know what to expect from the US government. The Automotive Companies are lobbying the government for the ban on Chinese competition from entering their market. on grounds of National security and sovereignty. starting by Fearmongeing seeding the bias, hate, and negativity. The free market as long it benefits US government interests.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 6 months ago
But are they wrong? Has China proven that they can be trusted? Will the Chinese government stay out of the businesses and not try to access the data they collect?
The answer is a resounding “No!”
0nekoneko7@lemmy.world 6 months ago
My argument was about the course of action the US government will try to take to safeguard US automakers. Everyone knows this, Chinese EV entry will slice their bottom line and disrupt the market for already established Automakers in the US. If the consumer gets a better and an affordable option they’ll go for it.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
As has been the way since its inception. Fruit company coups and prohibition to support lumer industries.
joel1974@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If government can ban tik tok can also ban Chinese electric vroom vroom
0nekoneko7@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s a free market, you’re welcome to buy GMC and FORD. 💰 If you have that kind of money, go for Lambo or Maybach. 👍
SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 6 months ago
We should just get the top three car manufacturers to tell us how much the Chinese cars should be sold for in the states.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 6 months ago
ah yes the free market and its visible invisible hand.
rikudou@lemmings.world 6 months ago
Not from the US, but Europe is basically worse than the US when it comes to EVs and I’d still never consider a Chinese car. They are not really known for following safety standards. Or any standards for that matter.
DrDominate@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They would get vetted by U.S safety standards before being sold, not by Chinese standards.
mfdoom@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They are already being sold in Australia, which has fairly strict safety standards
hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Have fun with cheaply made EVs. Who will break down very year.
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 6 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Chinese companies such as BYD, the biggest global rival to America’s Tesla, are forcing Western automakers to change their approach to electric vehicles if they want to remain competitive in a growing industry.
The company, whose name stands for Build Your Dreams, controls most of its own low-cost EV supply chain, from basic components to the ships that transport its vehicles overseas.
Even Tesla CEO Elon Musk, who made a surprise visit to Beijing last week, has said that without trade barriers Chinese EV makers would “demolish” their competitors.
China, in turn, has filed a case with the World Trade Organization accusing the U.S. of discriminating against Chinese products in its own electric vehicle subsidies.
In addition to tariffs and trade restrictions, Chinese EV makers would face a number of regulatory and compliance hurdles to selling cars in the U.S.
The move could clear the way for approval in China of Tesla’s highest level of self-driving software, whose safety and performance was criticized by U.S. regulators in a recent report.
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Xantar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
How likely are those EVs to turn into “combustion” engines ? I’ve heard crazy stories the CCP would like to cover up.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 6 months ago
I’m ready for a $15,000 EV.
But I suppose the Ford, GM, and whatever else is left of the US auto industry will never be ready.
return2ozma@lemmy.world 6 months ago
How about a $10k EV? cnbc.com/…/byd-seagull-ev-puts-global-auto-execs-…
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
The problem is that Chinese models are so cheap because of government subsidies and slave labor. I still think that Western models are too expensive because of plain greed, but the Chinese models are not without problems either.
Supervivens@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Considering the problems of non-penetrating welds, completely inactive airbags, constant fires, idk bout that chief. Like don’t get me wrong, Tesla ain’t it, but they aren’t this bad.
video full of clips of this happening