I love how microchips look like really well-organized Factorio maps
Apple introduces M4 chip
Submitted 6 months ago by simple@lemm.ee to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2024/05/apple-introduces-m4-chip/
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Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 6 months ago
PHLAK@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That’s because that’s exactly what they are.
Moneo@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s all
ones and zeroesfactorio once you get to the bottom.
elxeno@lemm.ee 6 months ago
My CPU needs more iron
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
All must be fed to the god factory!
bruhduh@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You’ll be surprised once you’ll see what living beings is consist of on micro and nano level
TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That M4 and OLED screen is gonna display the SHIT out of some sheet music for me.
datendefekt@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
I get the sarcasm, but isn’t that exactly what E-Paper tablets are really good at?
TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 6 months ago
isn’t that exactly what E-Paper tablets are really good at?
I would love to use an e-Ink screen, because they play much better with stage lighting.
However, I’ve yet to see one that can do what I want the iPad to do, sheet-music-wise. I don’t only want to see it, I want to be able to make markings, scan scores, act as a pitch pipe and metronome, have an onscreen keyboard to plunk out the part I’m singing if I’m struggling to read it, etc.
(That also isn’t the only thing I use my iPad for, just the main excuse I have for owning one. I actually probably will buy the M4 Pro, but mainly because I already have a buyer for my current iPad and because it’s so much lighter.)
metaStatic@kbin.social 6 months ago
the M1 is still overkill for 99% of ends user tasks.
Alto@kbin.social 6 months ago
The primary benefit for the average consumer tends to be longer battery life due to the same task using less power, in theory anyway.
abhibeckert@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Sure but my iPad already lasts a week on a charge.
WereCat@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes. And instead of taking advantage of that they shrunk the battery to have thinner tablet instead of better battery life.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
The primary benefit is they can now include RAM and GPU on die to increase the SKU cost for consumers.
GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
More powerful hardware makes tasks that were previously not considered end-user tasks feasible for end-users, just give it some time.
junderwood@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Agreed! My trusty little M1 air has been my absolute favorite computer I’ve ever owned. It’s just so darned capable and entirely silent. It does everything I need it to do and then some. I’ll upgrade sometime, but for now long live the wedge!
reallyzen@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Ah again. One more moving target to chase for the nice AsahiLinux project.
bruhduh@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That just means asahi linux not gonna die and will be really long lived project because it have a clear purpose, well, it is if we try to have positive outlook on situation
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
It isn’t all that different than the M3
daq@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
I love it on my M2 Mac mini. Useless with macos because it needs more than 8gb of ram just to start without loading anything but Asahi turns it into a fantastic ARM server. I just wish GPU team had more resources to finish the driver. M2 is absolute shit at transcoding on CPU. I mean it’s also terrible on GPU, but I can’t complain considering how little power it consumes.
reallyzen@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
AsahiLina was at it yesterday, ultumately chasing Vulkan compatibility:
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Does any one care?
There was so much hype on this generation of silicon and the landing has seemed extremely flat to me, largely because Apple.
Alto@kbin.social 6 months ago
I like keeping tabs on it, as they're really the only ones pushing mainstream high end ARM chips at the moment.
canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Don’t forget about the new Snapdragon X series.
fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Advances in Arm chips make the journey of porting software look better for devs, once a project starts porting it gets easier for other architectures (like riscv).
That and silicon competition is good. Keeps them forced to produce better or cheaper products to compete.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Do you just mean M4? Or all Apple Silicon?
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Everything since the M1. Mind blowing hype, graphs that seem shocking at announcement. Data that comes in below these graphs, then owing to the extremely high walls of the garden, a sigh and shoulder shrug at what you can do with the technology, because although cool and seemingly very powerful, you just can’t do much with it because of apples buisness philosophy.
YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Will the M4 be used in new MacBook Airs, or is that a completely separate SoC? I’m not familiar with Apple’s hardware anymore.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 months ago
One BILLION dollars for 32 gigs of ram.
barsquid@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Going from 1 TB to 2 TB SSD on this iPad is somehow $400? That is a clown price but it is a 50% discount on going from 512 GB to 1 TB. What the actual fuck?
elgordio@kbin.social 6 months ago
Yeah it’ll come to the Air’s and the Mac Mini at some point. I suspect it’s actually cheaper to make on the new process node (it’s the second generation of TSMC’s 3nm process), so maybe it won’t be too far off.
YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Any idea how long it usually takes for a new SoC to reach the Airs? Assuming they follow a pattern with each now generation.
Just wondering whether to buy an M3 Air or wait for the M4 version.
fubarx@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
The iPad Pro screen looks pretty good, but don’t need all that processing power to just watch videos and browse websites.
Was really hoping they would upgrade the iPad Mini.
iarigby@lemmy.world 6 months ago
ipad pro is specifically marketed for artists and their software actually needs power and speed. Having OLED on mini would be great. It’s one of my most beloved devices.
efstajas@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s a really good point though, it is a bit of an odd device with all that power and the significant limitations in software. Yeah it’s marked at artists, but if you’re talking about drawing with pen input, it’s actually pretty overpowered. There’s Logic Pro and Final Cut Pro but they benefit a lot less from a touch screen, and there’s a bunch of workflow issues due to iOS’ lack of a file system.
I really wish Apple would add some kind of “windowed mode” like Samsung Dex or the Surface Tablets. A $2.5k super high-powered device that can’t even open two Excel sheets side by side is quite strange.
olympicyes@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Sounds like they are using it to reduce the size of the battery.
pastabatman@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Top sku iPad pros with the keyboard case cost more than some MacBooks and people try and use them like MacBooks, which is crazy to me given the severe limitations of iPadOS compared to macOS. Remember the “what’s a computer?” ad? People are like that.
ultra@feddit.ro 6 months ago
Sigh… My school forces me to use an iPad
ytg@sopuli.xyz 6 months ago
Does M3/M4 support AV1 encoding?
kirklennon@kbin.social 6 months ago
The "bento box" graphic during the presentation yesterday said AV1. From the press release:
The Media Engine of M4 is the most advanced to come to iPad. In addition to supporting the most popular video codecs, like H.264, HEVC, and ProRes, it brings hardware acceleration for AV1 to iPad for the first time. This provides more power-efficient playback of high-resolution video experiences from streaming services.
QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 6 months ago
So raytracing will be supported in iPad apps now…
So far the M4 seems to only be announced for the iPad.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
I have recently bought older generation 12.9" iPad Pro and an M2 MBP through Backmarket at a fraction of the price. I’m primarily a Linux user but I bought the iPad for the screen and the MBP for music production. Even though they are years old, they still have more processing power than I need.
reallyzen@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
I just finished the full soundtrack of a theatre play using AsahiLinux on my M2pro mbp. I resorted to macos only to render some heavy video tracks.
iarigby@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Wow is the first time I heard about linux on iPad. Which guide did you use?
TheDeepState@lemmy.world 6 months ago
How fast will that run an iPod?
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 6 months ago
About tree fiddy
lemming741@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s now seven iPhones in a trenchcoat
4grams@awful.systems 6 months ago
I have an m2 iPad pro. The last thing it needs is more processing power, what it needs is better software to make use of the power that it has. I’d love to run full OS X on it considering I paid more than some MacBooks.
applepie@kbin.social 6 months ago
Yeah weird hardware power at this point into tech cycle is clowniney... short of ML/AI work loads for GPUs, we have enough power for every day shit.
We need better software products to utilize them but all we got is fucking ad laden trash and spyware with every app.
Big tech lost their fucking minds.
FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 6 months ago
100%… for example… they used Diablo Immortal as the example for the new ray tracing capabilities LOL
Common iPadOS L
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I’m starting to wonder if the real reason the push for bigger screens caught on wasn’t just because of the basic psychology of “bigger = better” but so they could shove more ads on screen, and now it’s more processing power so those ads won’t lock up the browser for a whole second while loading some bullshit questionnaire like “are you adult, child or gamer on iOS”
zib@kbin.melroy.org 6 months ago
As a developer, I find it pretty frustrating having to deal with constant hardware updates. By the time you get something released that takes advantage of the hardware you have, you're already at least a generation or two behind.
4grams@awful.systems 6 months ago
I feel the same way. I feel like we used to buy things and hold onto them for a while, nowadays, everything seems to be designed to have a single year lifecycle. I like AirPods but now that their battery died and I can’t replace them, I’m looking at going back to the cord. But now of course we’re in dongle hell since there’s only one port…
tahoe@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Same thing with my 2018 iPad Pro honestly. More ram and a better display? Maybe, but other than that it’s completely software limited
Persuader9421@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
Hell, I have an A12Z-based one and I don’t think I’ve ever maxed the processor out outside of playing games. Occasionally moonlight will drop frames and I’ll have to close some background apps or reboot for it to stream perfectly, but I’m also running 2388x1668@120hz 150mbps HEVC so I can kind of forgive that.
I was so excited when they announced Logic Pro, and equally as disappointed when it turned out to be Garageband+