I don’t understand how the length of the digestive tract would have an effect on spoiled raw meat hosting untold amount of bacteria.
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tyler@programming.dev 4 months ago
Dogs have a much shorter digestive tract. So things that have been sitting out and have parasites in them have a much smaller chance of making a dog sick than they do humans. This is why dogs can eat most raw meats without getting sick, while humans need special preparation for raw meats to make sure parasites aren’t in them.
treadful@lemmy.zip 4 months ago
ilovededyoupiggy@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
There’s a lot more chances to jump off your float for a sec and enjoy the scenery on a long lazy river than there is on a water slide.
ChanchoManco@lemm.ee 4 months ago
This is a beautiful metaphor.
madcaesar@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Why is this so highly up voted? Is there any data backing this up? This sounds eerily to the 5 second rule… If you pick up up quick enough it’s safe!
I’d really love some sources on this.
tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 4 months ago
It’s a pretty well know property of carnivore digestive systems. They also tend to have more and stronger stomach acid, which can kill off a lot of parasites. It get’s even crazier for carrion eaters.
EddoWagt@feddit.nl 4 months ago
I had to look up what carrion eaters are, but it’s animals that eat old or decaying meat like vultures and coyotes
GoogleSellsAds@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
Thanks for the info, now I can confidently carrion.
mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I not sure this is true.
As I understand, humans have an extremely acidic stomach compared to other animals, even carnivores. Our stomach acid is on the level of scavengers, and this is to kill bacteria and parasites in the food we eat. Humans could be more tolerant of spoiled food than most other species.
The modern western diet/lifestyle can damage our digestive tract in ways that affect our pH and microbiome making us susceptible to what we should normally be tolerant of. Anyone taking antacids or dealing with heartburn type issues I would expect to more vulnerable to food poisoning since any pathogens can more easily pass deeper into our digestive tract.
The short digestive tract in a dog is all that is needed to extract nutrients from animal sources, digesting plants requires help from a microbiome and they need somewhere to live and do their work, this is why plant eaters have extensive digestive tracts that are not very acidic so they don’t kill them off. Humans (not sure about other animals) neutralize the “chime” exiting your stomach so that it’s pH is appropriate for the microbiome living in the intestines.
The human digestive tract suggest sit evolved for adaptability, a healthy human can safely eat anything from carrion (not saying it’s fine, just that we evolved to be able to survive it), be a vegetarian, or eat mostly meat and thrive.
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
This is new information to me and a great example of the internet having a positive role in my life. I wish it was all this way. Thanks for the mini-lesson.
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
Okay but have you actually looked it up to make sure it’s true? Never trust facts from random comments, no matter how reasonable they seem to be.
bitfucker@programming.dev 4 months ago
Lie on the internet
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 months ago
…but but but it’s got that air of Truthiness to it.
SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Truth is in the eye of the beholder
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
Why would they lie? Come one, it’s Tyler! They’d never lie.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
This is generally how “folksy wisdom” keeps getting passed down generation to generation until it ends up in a farmer’s almanac.
It sounds reasonable, and so gets taken for true even though it has no (that I’m aware) actual scientific evidence to back it up.
It’s a causation fallacy. ie) correlation does not necessarily equal causation. Just because two things are statistically correlated, doesn’t mean that one causes the other.
It’s like if I were to say “Hey, The midwest has higher instances of heart disease. Therefore moving to the the midwest will give you heart disease.” It’s not true.
The two things are correlated, certainly, in that the mid-west folks probably for the most part has a much fattier diet, and are less likely to engage in healthier eating habits. But just the simple act of being in the midwest isn’t a cause of heart disease.
Correlation does not equal Causation. Print it on a card and keep it in your pocket please. People not grasping that concept and passing off folksy anecdotes as “wisdom” has been the cause of too much suffering.
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
All true, but it’s even worse: sometimes some of the cited facts are plainly wrong. Taking your example, it could be that the midwest actually has the same heart disease statistics as anywhere else. Just because someone told you something confidently doesn’t mean it’s true. “95% of statistics is made up on the spot”.
So maybe “dogs have a much shorter digestive tract” is already wrong? Maybe they have roughly the same length as us? And maybe “[things with parasites] have a much smaller chance of making a dog sick than they do humans” is also wrong? If you care about the truthfulness, you’d have to look that up too. And then you’d have to find that there’s causation between the two.
But all that said, I agree with another reply: “It’s a really low-risk bit of information, whether true or false. […] there’s no harm in taking in low-stakes stuff”. So no need to be paranoid about every little tidbit of info, just the things that matter to you.
other_cat@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Love your comment.
I actually got curious and tried to fact check this but then realized I had no way of knowing which sites really offered actual advice to such an inane little fact, or were just making shit up. :(
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 months ago
When the stakes are this low and I don’t really care that much, I just move on. Anything that I care about I do like to verify.
otp@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
It’s a really low-risk bit of information, whether true or false. It’s good practice to be aware of what we accept as true, though there’s no harm in taking in low-stakes stuff imo
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 4 months ago
I was gonna include that in my reply but didn’t want to make it into an essay.
Randomgal@lemmy.ca 4 months ago
And put EFFORT into it? Fuck no.
ExcursionInversion@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Why look it up when I could just run some tests myself and find out if it’s true