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someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is medicine in a nutshell too. And not just abbreviations, but acronyms… for words in a language that no one uses. I hate it.

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  • ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I literally took Latin in college for the sole reason that Latin is used in super stupid ways, and my science communication degree would be worth less without that knowledge. Because Latin-base is fully half of the science terms you need to know.

    And my college was super on board with my reasoning. Wish I’d also had the mental capacity for ancient Greek, because that’s literally the other half of naming schemes.

    Ridiculous.

    I’m super into modern scientists giving shit pop culture names. Because holy shit is it ever more memorable than some random Latin/greek bullshit.

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    • oo1@lemmings.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Strange that ‘classics’ are taught mostly in the poshest schools. It’s rare for elites to want to preserve any power they have and make it inaccessible to oiks. /s

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  • Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Well, what other language should be used? Latin is the language of science because there’s no way we’d ever agree on which alive language to use.

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    • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I didn’t say it was a bad system or that we need to change it: I said I hate it.

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      • Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Fair enough haha

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    • someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Um English? It’s the international language and language of research, though some may not like hearing that.

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      • Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        English is only the lingua franca for now, but that, as well as the English language, will inevitably change.

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      • zarathustrad@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The whole point of using a “dead” language is that languages change over time and scientists once had the foresight to attempt making their works more universal over both multiple languages and over time.

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      • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Let’s rename everything every century or so. It should make things easier.

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    • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Esperanto, the second language of the international laborer /hj

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      • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I unironically kinda wish that would take off. The concept of a super simple bridge language is great.

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  • oo1@lemmings.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Can you give an eggsample?

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    • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Couple common ones… there are hundreds of these.

      Acronym - Full Latin - English

       

      PRN - pro re nata - as needed

      NPO - nil per os - nothing my both

      AC - ante cibum - before eating

      OD - oculus dexter - right eye

      OS - oculus sinister - left eye

      Q8H - quaque octava hora - every 8 hours

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      • Holzkohlen@feddit.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        QED

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      • Sir_Fridge@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Etc

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  • someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hey I can finally ask, how much of medical terms are Greek?

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    • roguetrick@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Most is Latin but many anatomy terms are Greek.

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    • Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not really any that I’m aware of, but I’m a tech, so my insight is only surface level. Grain of salt.

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• Rubanski@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What about tungsten?

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  • someguy3@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Apparently tungsten is also known as Wolfram, so that’s the W. Sodium Cl is from neo-latinm

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    • pumpkinseedoil@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s Na from Natrium (I have no idea why you even call it Sodium in English)

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      • grandkaiser@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s called Sodium in English because an English chemist Sir Humphrey Davy discovered it & named it “Sodium” He was able to isolate it via separation of caustic soda (sodium hydroxide) and therefore named it after the caustic soda “soda-ium”. A few years later, a German chemist (Ludwig Wilhelm Gilbert) was able to isolate it and named it “Natronium” Just under a decade later, Jöns Jacob Berzelius coined the term “Natrium” as he felt the name “Natronium” was too lengthy to catch on.

        As to exactly why the earlier term was not respected is likely due to nationalism. During the earlier 1800’s a lot of countries were desperately trying to take claim for various rapid advancements in chemistry, physics, mathematics, and medicine. Getting to have the name that “your guy” coined was largely bent around national pride.

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