…tell me more of these proton mail services of which you speak!
Comment on [Gamers Nexus] "Google is Getting Worse," ft. Wendell of Level1 Techs
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Getting worse is putting it lightly.
Get the fuck off Google services if you can. Highly recommend Proton mail and drive as a replacement.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 months ago
helenslunch@feddit.nl 6 months ago
It’s like Gmail except it has a proper dark mode and Google isn’t reading all your emails
sunzu@kbin.run 6 months ago
But I have nothing to hide!
Why shouldN'T sundar the creep read my email and check my nudes?
ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Ultimately, arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say.
- snowden
Mullvad also put together this recently: mullvad.net/en/…/nothing-to-hide
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Been using their paid email, drive and vpn for the last couple of years and their service has been flawless in my experience. Great apps and never had an outage or issues once.
Free versions are available but the paid version is well worth it.
slooopy_potatoe@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I’ve been with them for a couple of years too and I use all their services (mail, calendar, drive, VPN, pass and simplelogin) but calling it flawless is a bit of an overstatement.
Their outside communication is nonexistent at best, development speed is unbearably slow and Linux support, the most privacy countious user-base?, is lacking a lot.
Hopefully in the next couple years they sinally manage to release contact sync and a Linux client for Drive.
micka190@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Their outside communication is nonexistent at best
Eh, they’re decently active on Reddit, I guess. They send the occasional newsletter regarding new features if you don’t unsubscribe (and they’re pretty good at not spamming with those, imo).
development speed is unbearably slow
I see people say this all the time, and while feature updates are kind of slow, I’m also not lacking anything, personally. I would appreciate it if they smoothed-out SimpleLogin’s extension, though. That thing is weirdly clunky to use.
Agree on the Linux bit, though. I’m surprised they haven’t put more work into that.
Overall, I’ve been a happy customer for a few years, personally.
TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 6 months ago
Is it still viable in 2024 to run a home email server? I used to have a personal Postfix box back in the day.
univers3man@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You’d have to be really committed. There’s more admin work than you think to make sure you’re not insecure or getting blocked.
astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 6 months ago
I use a cheap VPS to host my email server. It’s a bit easier than running it solely at home, but there’s a lot of annoying work to “verify” yourself. Once you get your DNS records good, you shouldn’t be blocked after that (unlike a home server). It only costs me $5/month plus the domain, which I think is money well spent. Doing the admin work to make sure I’m secure still needs to happen, but I don’t mind that work and find it fun.
frezik@midwest.social 6 months ago
Gmail and other big providers tend to consider new domains to be spam until they’ve proven otherwise. Can’t prove otherwise until you’ve been up and running for a while. Catch-22. The way out of that is to host with an existing provider for a few years.
Does it cut down on spam? Perhaps. Does it favor existing providers like Gmail? Yes, definitely.
Honestly, hosting email has long been difficult to setup, and all the more so if you don’t want your box to be a spam host within three seconds of plugging it in.
smiletolerantly@awful.systems 6 months ago
I’ve been hosting a personal domain with an established-but-not-large hosting provider for around 6 years, without any troubles sending or receiving mail from that domain (via the provider’s servers, of course).
Does that mean my domain is now well established enough to take email hosting to my own server?
frezik@midwest.social 6 months ago
Good chance you could at this point.
KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I would need to see some alternates for Google Drive in that case.
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Proton drive is fantastic.
KonalaKoala@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I just signed up for that just to check it out and compare it, and it looks like upgrading the storage on it is more expensive than Google Drive.
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah but that’s expected. It’s difficult to compete as a smaller company compared to what Google can offer.
It’s the price of privacy and to be outside of the google ecosystem.
justaderp@lemmy.world 6 months ago
There’s an incredible story behind it. But, the short form is that Proton Mail is more expensive because they’re not harvesting all your private information. In a few months the law will prevent them from doing for as long as the core fiscal law and Proton Mail exist (at least decades).
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
If price is main concern, you still have options, but you’ll need to be a lot more specific about what you need. For example:
- proprietary, hosted products like OneDrive, Amazon Drive, DropBox, and MEGA
- backups - NordLocker, Backblaze
- hosted and self-hosted cloud platforms - OwnCloud and NextCloud, use Backblaze B2 for storage
I’m doing the last one. I have NextCloud installed on my custom NAS (just openSUSE Leap with some drives) and am working on configuring B2 as a backup service.
Each of these are similar in price to Google Drive, but with a different feature set. Some are cheaper.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Just signed up after they announced the non-profit and mmigrated all my mail. So far so good.
Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 6 months ago
But what if Alphabet buys Proton!?
recklessengagement@lemmy.world 6 months ago
They went non-profit recently to specifically prevent this from happening.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
duckduckgo and yandex.
even bing is better nowadays.
wingsfortheirsmiles@feddit.uk 6 months ago
Moved to Protonmail earlier this year, just cancelled my Drive sub and am looking at switching to Mega
Nikki@lemmy.world 6 months ago
can vouch for mega, been using it for 8 years now with no real issues. only sticking point is file download limits with Firefox, and thats just because im too lazy to download the desktop app
tibi@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I hate services that force you to download an app when the functionality could be provided in browser. Apps have a lot more permissions to access things that wouldn’t be accessible in browser.
Nikki@lemmy.world 6 months ago
from what i see its a browser limitation rather than the site. dyor ofc
fossphi@lemm.ee 6 months ago
You can use rclone to mount your mega drive like a regular folder. Works like a charm. It’s a FLOSS command line utility
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why did you cancel Drive?
wingsfortheirsmiles@feddit.uk 6 months ago
To be fair I’ve had no issues, just trying to degoogle slowly