Comment on Windows 11 is now automatically enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission

Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Prox@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The extra fun part is when it starts bitching at you for filling up the cloud storage allotment that you didn’t know you were using.

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  • Shellbeach@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Or when it actually deleted the local files once it uploaded them to one drive. Fun times.

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    • deweydecibel@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Or the fact that once it’s off of your hard drive and sitting comfortably on their cloud (their hard drive), they can scan it and harvest it for data.

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    • dditty@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      OMG this happened to a colleague of mine and they deleted the files from OneDrive without realizing they weren’t on their hard drive anymore 🤦

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  • Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thankfully I noticed what was going on before it got to that point, but when they start vacuuming up all your files and data like that without telling you and without giving you control over it, you kind of have to assume that whatever is going on is not being done for your benefit.

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  • lath@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The extra extra fun part is to then offer you the opportunity to pay for bigger storage!

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    • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The cherry on top, you can’t say no. You can only tell them to “ask you later”.

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      • PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        At least they’re being honest with that. You know they’d keep asking you after choosing “no”.

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    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I got a great idea.

      While we’re sucking up every single file, let’s also do daily, non incremental updates.

      We’ll hit the free storage limit it no time and then we can start sending DIRE messages about how the users data won’t be PROPERLY backed up anymore.

      Then we can upsell them in an outrageously priced storage plan that won’t even last a year of these daily backups so we can start the process over again.

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  • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’d be hilarious if they did that but your paid for space was too low so they had to cut you off but they had already taken the liberty to delete the files before they synched

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• homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What’s the big deal? Microsoft security is top notch. They totally didn’t get p0vvN3d by russia basically twenty minutes ago and have their source code stolen.

  It’s why the US gummit is so happy to use micro$quash services.

  And y’know even then, who cares if all your data is stolen by state-sponsored cyber crime groups, y’know? M$ has spared no expense to ensure all that data is secured end-to-end with unbreakable encryption even microsoft can’t read! (snkk) Even if they wanted to!

  It’s not like they’ve tricked everyone into being data cattle for their giant cloud-ranching operation, to shovel everything into AI and sell the results to anyone at the highest price possible. I mean. We’d have heard something about that if it was the case.

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  • wanderingmagus@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To be fair, the DOD uses a different version of Windows than you, me, or any average company, with a custom set of agreements with Microsoft, a bunch of debloating of Windows-specific apps and the addition of a bunch of military/government apps.

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    • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t know that to be true, but if so why has the history of Windows been a continual string of vulnerabilities, hacks, and weak security such as their own cloud service being compromised and their codebase stolen?

      That is, if there’s a DoD “version” that’s more secure, couldn’t they make more money selling that? I dunno, they’re dead to me but they’ve never been short of people who want to use them for whatever reason.

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      • wanderingmagus@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Because DoD isn’t concerned with the regular internet or unclassified machines as much as with the classified computers - those set up by Information Technician ratings and the Security Managers to handle SIPR and JWICS access. The Admirals, Generals, and O-6s are also often tech illiterate old men, and those just beneath that, and the E-7+ crowd, are often just as tech illiterate. Microsoft also has a lot of multi decade DoD contracts, which they get billions for. Microsoft can’t sell the secure version because that just lets foreign adversaries reverse engineer all the possible vulnerabilities. Microsoft only cares about security as far as they get paid for it and can get away with. In the consumer market, that’s pretty much zero concern - not profitable enough.

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• Sho@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Mean while on windows 10, they are forcing updates with a creepy splash screen when you boot up. Can’t exit, can’t stop it, basically held hostage. This was on my old surface pro 4. Then the update screwsed everything up and I had to do a system restore…shits bad 👎

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  • Yerbouti@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’ve installed Linux on my dad’s surface 2. He’s more than happy, I bassicaly could’nt do anything with it because how slow Windows had became.

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    • orclev@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Been running Windows 10 on my gaming desktop for a while now and refusing to “upgrade” to 11 because of how much worse it was. Going to be doing a hardware refresh in a couple months and when I do I’m installing Linux. Thanks to Valve and a few major open source projects Linux gaming has finally reached a point where I can tell MS to fuck off with their enshitification.

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      • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        My computer doesn’t support Win11, so I have that going for me. Transitioning to the Steam Deck for my gaming, which has been a slow but mostly positive process. Some of the games don’t play well outside of Windows, but none of the ones I really want to play, and I can always switch to my computer if I do.

        I don’t think I’ll ever own a Win11 computer.

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• IronKrill@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Oh god, you reminded me. I had a run in with this recently because my parents got new laptops. 1TB hard drive, should be plenty right? NO! My mom had 15GB of files in her home folders and One Drive was whining constantly to pay them for more space.

  It was about an hour of debugging to keep the files safe, extract One Drive from the home folder locations because it had dug in like a virus, and then (after 20 online searches and scouring forums) click the specific toggle in the specific menu to disable One Drive so it would use local files.

  I paid for a 1TB computer, why are you forcing me to use your shitty online-only limited-space shit show. Fucks sake.

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• NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I was having a conversation in another thread a few days ago about the legality of completely fictional AI child porn and how that may be a safer outlet for those individuals as it involves no harm.

  It’s legal in many countries, but also not legal in many countries.

  In USA federal law says as long as its not obscene or has serious value its allowed, but really, good luck with those clauses. Then it says, it’s also legal unless it’s been transmitted by a common carrier, e.g mail, internet.

  So, someone might be legally making their own CP so they don’t need to cause any abuse, and then Windows without their permission, uploads it to OneDrive.

  You know the person making fictional CP would be the one thrown in jail for transmitting it over a common carrier, but maybe we should throw Microsoft in jail for doing that without permission and fucking is all over, over and over and over again with all this bullshit

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  • crank0271@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    …wut

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  • letsgo@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “fictional AI CP” isn’t a thing. AI is trained on existing data. It does not create new stuff. If you want AI to generate CP then you have to train it on CP.

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    • Womble@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The same way the pictures of ninja dinosaurs can only be trained on actual photos of ninja dinosaurs, right?

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      • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Can we throw a slice of pizza in there?

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    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      AI can create faces and bodies that have never existed. From there it might just take a lot of prompt engineering, but to say have to train it on CP is false.

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      • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Can create faces that have never existed, but can you guarantee that the child in a CP that it has created does not look identical to a child that already exists? after all it can very well produce something using children directly from or very similar to its training set.

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  • iAvicenna@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    yea well there is no way to guarantee that AI wont spew out CP where the child there looks exactly like a child that it has seen in its training set, i.e a child that really exists. so no go

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• dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Just automatically started uploading everything on my hard drive to an account I didn’t set up

  Wait, what?

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  • Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I mean specifically a cloud storage account. Setting up the computer required me to supply an email address and set a password for microsoft.com. There was nothing in that process that I recall mentioning OneDrive, or that would have suggested every file on my C drive was about to be indiscriminately uploaded to a Microsoft server somewhere. I didn’t even know OneDrive was a thing until I had to google how to stop it.

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