small museum at the end of the world
The end of the world is a fair description, but small is not. It is the largest privately funded museum in the Southern Hemisphere and has 6000m² (64583 ft²) of gallery space.
Comment on Mona: Australia women's-only museum files appeal to keep men out
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months agoThe amount of people/men who don’t get it is astonishing. Art isn’t just something you can put on a wall. This entire thing with excluding men is an art installation, supposed to generate emotions and a discussion about exclusion and gender disparity. And seeing how many men around the world are frothing at the mouth over an installation at a small museum at the end of the world it is an extremely powerful piece of art. I applaud the museum for this.
fiat_lux@kbin.social 6 months ago
quindraco@lemm.ee 6 months ago
You’re applauding a troll for trolling successfully?
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Intent matters. If all you just want is to piss off people, that’s trolling. I don’t see this being the point here.
quindraco@lemm.ee 6 months ago
That is the artist’s explicitly intended point.
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
No, it is really not. There’s an intent behind the outrage.
LwL@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I appreciate some good trolling that doesn’t actually harm anyone. And in this case it also certainly generated discussion, so I’d say it’s more than trolling anyway.
over_clox@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah, well my late father was a painter, and his number one rule was that he didn’t paint stuff to be hidden away. One of his last wishes was to make sure people see his artworks.
It’s up to the people that view his works as to their thoughts and opinions.
Larry@lemmy.world 6 months ago
“I was an asshole as a work of art, not because I am an asshole”
IzzyJ@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You’re right, but to play devil’s advocate; that’s extremely unintuitive and took me to my 20s to figure out
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
Well, the mean age here seems to be over 30, so I’d expect a tad more maturity.
Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 6 months ago
“Maturity”, defined as being willing to accept explicit sex discrimination, so long as said discrimination penalizes men (as men are an acceptable target for discrimination)?
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 6 months ago
If that’s still the hill you wanna die on, please.
JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 6 months ago
There are still places that are men only. Women can’t join the freemasons for example, but you don’t see this sort of extremely angry reaction to that.
And I agree, this art piece is doing exactly what it was supposed to.
vonbaronhans@midwest.social 6 months ago
Huh. Let women into the Freemasons, I guess?
JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 6 months ago
That’d be ideal, but I don’t really see that happening tbh. There’s a women’s version of the freemasons, but it’s not nearly as popular or active as far as I can tell.
HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Do you have any more examples other than the freemasons? I had assumed we were done with needless segregation (excluding bathrooms and such).
The only thing that makes sense in my mind is that male dominated spaces have non-explicit social barriers in place that are being approximated by the explicit barrier the museum has set up.
In the UK there’s golf clubs that have pretty toxic atmospheres and dress codes but aren’t legally allowed to bar women.
Sorry if this is super ignorant
JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I’m from the US, but here it’s mostly fraternal lodges that still ban women, and certain religious groups(which I don’t think those technically count due to separation of church and state). But the Order of Oddfellows, Fraternal Order of Eagles, Freemasons, and the Botherhood of St Andrew don’t initiate women. Im sure theres more but i dont know about them.
Granted those have some religious influence, but aren’t churches directly as far as I understand. Also the skull and bones, but they’re very secretive and that could have changed and no one would be the wiser.
I’m not sure about other countries laws, but in the US private institutions are more or less allowed to segregate by gender, but often there’s backlash and they lose money so most won’t go there. That’s why it’s mostly these secretive fraternal orders that still do it.
HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Thank you! I wasn’t expecting such a long and well written response 😁