They’re both focused on profit. The only reason you see the other one as scary is because it’s owned by the scary scary Chinese. Red scare all over again.
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Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 6 months agoPeople love to repeat this, but US companies aren’t coming from a place of hostile intent like china’s special brand of tik tok for the states.
endhits@lemmy.world 6 months ago
jaschen@lemm.ee 6 months ago
No tiktok is not focused on profit. It literally has one of the worst/non existent monetization systems.
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 6 months ago
Yup, vine ripoff with the same monetization issue
jaschen@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Case in point. Vine literally can’t survive and so shouldn’t TikTok. Unless of course it’s getting propped up by a government with endless funds and not focused on profits.
Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why is Chinese tiktok different than that in the states then?
AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 6 months ago
Because the USA strong armed them into giving their platform handling to Oracle Corp, a top tier US govt contractor.
But since pro-palestine cries can’t be silenced on TikTok as easily as Zio media, taking control of the platform is no longer enough
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 6 months ago
No, it’s literally a different app in China.
jumjummy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
You say “red scare” as if China isn’t a hostile nation state to the US. Go look at western company penetration in China if you want. Are you calling it “western scare” when China blocks yet another western company? I didn’t think so.
exanime@lemmy.today 6 months ago
So Facebook has the best interest of the people at heart?
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/…/620767/
jaschen@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Facebook is not intentionally doing it. It was a byproduct of capitalism. While TikTok doesn’t care about profits and only wants to control our government and people.
exanime@lemmy.today 6 months ago
Most 10 years ago they were already manipulating people on purpose
jaschen@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Yes, to maximize ad spend, not to take down a government for another government’s benefit.
elleybirdy@lemmy.zip 6 months ago
[deleted]RaoulDook@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Absolute bullshit. Go ahead and prove what you said, I’ll wait here. Find any comments on Lemmy that are pro-Facebook or pro-Meta.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Hmm, here’s what Zuckerberg said when he launched Facebook:
According to SAI sources, the following exchange is between a 19-year-old Mark Zuckerberg and a friend shortly after Mark launched The Facebook in his dorm room:
Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
Zuck: Just ask.
Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
[Redacted Friend’s Name]: What? How’d you manage that one?
Zuck: People just submitted it.
Zuck: I don’t know why.
Zuck: They “trust me”
Zuck: Dumb fucks.
Brutal.
Could Mark have been completely joking? Sure. But the exchange does reveal that Facebook’s aggressive attitude toward privacy may have begun early on.
They may not be trying to control elections (they certainly have their fingers in that pie too), but they’re still hostile to users.
admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 6 months ago
Why would it matter whether or not it’s intentional, if the end effect is the same?
Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s not the same. China wants to fuck up the American youth. That’s why their version of tiktok is so different from ours. But you already knew that I’m sure
admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 6 months ago
Nah, I don’t use tiktok, Chinese or otherwise so I wouldn’t know the difference. But you’re missing the point.
- USA organisations abuse social media to spy on and influence citizens.
- Chinese organisations abuse social media to spy on and influence citizens.
And yet, you claim one is inheritly worse than the other or should be preferered. To me, they are equally bad. If anything, the USA manipulation is worse - they can use that knowledge more easily and to greater effect than an attacker on the other side of the world.
fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 6 months ago
- USA organisations abuse social media to spy on and influence citizens.
- Chinese
organisationsgenocidal dictatorship abuse social media to spy on and influence citizens.
Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Are the American companies doing it in pursuit of destabilizing the United States population for the betterment of the CCP and its interests?
Is the Chinese company doing it in pursuit of destabilizing the United Dtates population for the betterment of the CCP and its interests?
K1nsey6@lemmy.world 6 months ago
China does not have a version of tiktok. You are repeating bullshit lies
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 6 months ago
Douyin begs to differ.
KrapKake@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m not so sure about that, they seem pretty hostile to customers and employees.