My basic web dev Docker suite uses about 13GB just on its own
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Comment on Apple argues in favor of selling Macs with only 8GB of RAM
Veraxus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
My basic web dev Docker suite uses about 13GB just on its own, which - assuming you were on 16GB (double Apple’s minimum) - wouldn’t leave much for things like browser tabs, which also eat memory for breakfast.
A fast swap is not an argument to short-change on RAM, especially since SSDs have a shorter lifespan than RAM modules. 16GB remains the absolute bare minimum for modern computing, and Apple is making weak, ridiculous excuses to pocket just a few extra bucks per MacBook.
dullbananas@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
morrowind@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
average webdev
olympicyes@lemmy.world 2 months ago
PS5 has 16GB and it’s a toy.
YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU@lemm.ee 2 months ago
The people need to know how you use 13GB of ram worth of containers for web dev.
linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Docker is awesome for a lot of things. But it’s not particularly good for RAM.
hector@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Wow! 13GB! I did some heavy stuff on my computer with like a shit ton of Docker servers running together + deployment and I never reached 13GB!
Without disclosing private company information lol what are you doing ;)
ben_dover@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
not OP, but I have to run fronted and backend of a project in docker simultaneously (multiple postgres and redis dbs, queues, search index, etc., plus two webservers), plus a few browser tabs and two VSCode instances open, regularly pushes my machine over 15gb ram usage
Veraxus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Veraxus
That is basically my use-case. You add a DB service (or two), DNS, reverse proxy, Redis, Memcached, etc… maybe some backend services like APIs, and then the applications that need those things to run… it adds up FAST. The advantage is that you can have multiple projects all running simultaneously and you can add/remove/swap them pretty easily.
RAM is cheap. There is no excuse for shipping a 8GB computer… even if it’s mostly going to be used for family photos and internet.
seth@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That was a fun song, t4t.
Veraxus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Running a suite of services in containers (DBs, DNS, reverse proxy, memcached, redis, elasticsearch, shared services, etc) plus a number of discreet applications that use all those things. My day-to-day usage hovers around 20GB with spikes to 32 (my max allocation) when I run parallelized test suites.
Dockers memory usage really adds up fast.
PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 months ago
What do you bist that takes that much memory?
filister@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Have you seen the difference between 8 and 16Gb, it is ridiculously expensive.
localhost443@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Nah its about £13 retail.
Oh wait, you mean from apple… Its £200 from them.
filister@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yes, my bad, I wanted to say the difference in price between the 8 and 16Gb model, I know that RAM became dirt cheap nowadays and there aren’t any excuses for Apple to continue offering 8Gb model, as this is exactly a planned obsolescence.
localhost443@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Yeah I was just pointing out the insanity of their pricing, using sarcasm. Its the main way we communicate over here.
The price difference between the first 2 models where 8gb ram is the only change, is £200. Post 2025 I’m going to need some solution to replace my windows install which solely runs CAD/CAM software. If it wasn’t for this scumbaggery I’d buy a Mac to replace win10, but at present apple are such a shower of cunts I think I may have to put up with win11.
What a fucking choice…
accideath@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Playing devils advocate here: As someone who deals with stuff like that, you also wouldn’t buy the base model mac. The average computer user can get by with 8GB just fine and it’s not like you can’t configure Macs with more than that.
That of course doesn’t justify the abhorrent price of the upgrades…
Specal@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And here I am, putting 16gb in every machine I work on because it’s so damn cheap there’s no reason not to future proof
accideath@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I mean, same. The difference in price for 8GB and 16GB is negligible, especially if you want dual channel on desktops
Specal@lemmy.world 2 months ago
My girlfriends mum wanted to know why her laptop was slow… It was because HP thought that 4gb of ram is acceptable in 2022 (when the laptop was sold). Granted ram wasn’t as cheap then as it is now… Still I paid £30 for a brand new 8gb DDR4 sodimm, there’s not reason hp couldn’t do that. It’s annoying the corners these company cut.
exanime@lemmy.today 2 months ago
For apple, that difference is $200… not negligible I’d say
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I just slap in 32GB on every computer I build because the MoBos can take 128GB and anything less feels cheap and silly.
PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Hard disagree. The average computer user is idling at 5gb already because the average computer user is stupid.
accideath@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Still leaves 3gb for the web browser and the average user isn’t using anything else anyways. And even on chrome that’s quite a few pages.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No they can’t. I ran 8gb of ram for years and it turns out that that’s why my computer sucked
accideath@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Maybe you’re not an average user then. Most people just browse the web and maybe manage some photos or fill out a document once in a while. You could do that on 4GB if you wanted to, let alone 8.
Specal@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I wouldn’t say 4gb is usable for the average consumer. Using the assumption they’re using windows 11 that’ll eat 3.7 ish GB of ram just idling.