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Comment on Microsoft in their infinite wisdom has replaced the Hide Desktop icon with Copilot.

As is everyone taking every possible opportunity to mention Linux. It’s not like we don’t know it exists, we don’t need constantly reminding that it’s an option.

Although it isn’t an option for a vast number of reasons, but mostly because corporate IT requires systems that run only on Windows. Therefore the only solution is Windows so the fact another operating system exists is utterly irrelevant and yet somehow you guys constantly keep mentioning it. Then we constantly have to point out that lots and lots of programs don’t run on Linux and then you will inhibitively start going on about Wine. It’s tiring. I would love it if we could have a conversation about Microsoft without having to pretend that other operating systems are viable alternatives.

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TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If Linux is not for you that’s understandable. The thing here is that they are not having a conversation about Microsoft. They are having the pettiest, least technical possible discussion about Linux, it’s devolving to pure clique shit talking.

If you want to talk about Microsoft, just talk about Microsoft.

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- HKayn@dormi.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Problem is, whenever you try taking about Microsoft, someone just has to interject and be like “yeah you should be using Linux instead”
  
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  - Rustmilian@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Then stop talking about Microsoft
    
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  - voodooattack@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
    
    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
    
    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
    
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  - intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    And whenever someone mentions Linux, we have to take up 75% of the thread responding to it.
    
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    Rustmilian@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That’s actually hilarious.
    
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- UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  The Microsoft company is not happy with me–that’s okay, I’ll still keep downloading patches for that garbage.
  
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Alborlin@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Or how about

You can’t easily define what apps start with startup

Even when wine is installed , lot of programs won’t run in wine

You cannot easily find where the program is installed like you can in windows

You attach a external disk but some apps won’t see it mounted making it Impossible to explore in their file picker , not all but some

There is almost huge lack of programs , for which there is huge possibility that a windows program exists.

There is constant need to use terminal for lot of things for which you can’t a program see point 4.

I keep telling Linux is still not for common home use for users who are in between power users and people only using it for browsing. This will get me downvotes here on Lemmy all the time . Linux edge lords are their own bubble.
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- icedterminal@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  All but one of your points here appear to be your lack of understanding Linux and/or user error. Point 4 is understandable due to Windows just being the default and most popular choice.
  
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  - aStonedSanta@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    And that’s exactly the fucking point. It’s a terrible idea to tell people to switch. Cause they don’t understand it.
    
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    icedterminal@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That’s not a very strong argument.
    
    When you started a job, did you understand it all? When you first started using Windows, Android or iOS, did you understand it all? No you didn’t. As with anything you’ve never used or done before, you won’t understand the ins and outs or know what to do in many situations. You learn about them. I certainly didn’t know much about Linux when I started using it. In an IT environment, I had to learn. I work with Windows and Linux on a daily basis. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. I use both on my personal devices.
    
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  - SpaceCadet@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Even point 4 is something I have never experienced, and is probably also lack of understanding.
    
    A filesystem is either mounted or it isn’t. Mounted for one program but not for another doesn’t exist. If they don’t see it in the filepicker, they probably just don’t know the mount point.
    
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    icedterminal@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Point 4 is listed twice in the comment. So I used “4 (2)” to point out what I was responding to. The second point 4.
    
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- unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You can’t easily define what apps start with startup
  
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  For point 2, that is true and improving. Always do some research about program compatibility before completely changing your computer’s OS.
  
  For point 3. Programs are generally installed in /usr/bin and ~/.var/app for Flatpaks (analogous to MS Store). Much easier than finding where MS store apps are installed.
  
  Never come across point 4, so I can’t dismiss it.
  
  As with 2, depends on your usecase
  
  GNOME Disk manager (comes with Fedora and Ubuntu) has options to mount drives to arbitrary locations if needed.
  
  I understand your argument but making points like these don’t really contribute to the discussion.
  
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Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Why is micro shit even the first choice? Go ChromeOS or something cool. Smh

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- FoxBJK@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Because MS puts work into backwards compatibility, so the business who paid someone to write an app for them 30 years ago can still use it today on a Win11 box. No shot of that happening on macOS, who has deprecated PowerPC and 32-bit support, and Linux is just too much of a wildcard.
  
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