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• partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m don’t do very much bicycling, but I much prefer breathing next to EVs than ICE vehicles. Being forced to breath someone’s stinky exhaust when you’re breathing heavy from physical exertion sucks.

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  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah I’d rather be a cyclist next to EVs, but I’d much rather not have to share the road with cars. Those things are dangerous.

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    • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Also they’re all the time on the way when riding in cities. Not even talking about having to stop every block just to let cars go over the intersection

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  • Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Breathing in Micro-rubber/micro-plastics from disintegrating car tires aren’t fixed at all by electrification.

    I can also hear ICE cars approach from behind when I’m cycling, but that isn’t the case with electric vehicles (which might be using “autopilot” and can’t see me on the road). I’m not sure if that whirring sound is present outside of low speeds, but I certainly can’t hear it with wind crossing my ears. Sometimes tire noise is audible, but not always.

    On the other hand, ICE drivers are more likely to intentionally try to hit me soooo

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    • partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Breathing in Micro-rubber/micro-plastics from disintegrating car tires isn’t fixed at all by electrification.

      That problem isn’t fixed by bicycling either.

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      • Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But in the comparison of tailpipe emissions (0.02 mg/km) vs tire emissions (36mg/km), I know which one I’m more worried about.

        Nick Molden of Emissions Analytics seems to think that the heavier the vehicle, the worse the wear on tires seems to be (though it greatly depends on driving style and torque). That’d probably mean heavy EVs and SUVs are the worst for this.

        Not that bicycles are completely clean- but there’s probably a time in the future to worry about bicycle microplastics- after the cars have been phased out.

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    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Breathing in Micro-rubber/micro-plastics from disintegrating car tires isn’t fixed at all by electrification.

      but even if you deleted all the cars, you’d still have small trucks, busses, fire trucks, etc.

      perhaps instead of saying no to car rolling things, come up with superior ways to roll things?

      cycles leave the same residue, their wheels are simply smaller.

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      • Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If transportation is necessary, find ways to mitigate emissions as best as possible. If emissions are unavoidable, use the thing with least emissions (small-tired lightweight vehicles) until you research a solution to a tire material that isn’t harmful (which is being worked on I think). Busses mitigate a dozen or two cars. Local rail mitigates a few busses and a few hundred cars. Essentially, personal vehicles should be small and lightweight, and essential mass transit or city services should be large enough to serve an entire area.

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  • FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    you’re going to shit when you find out sidewalks are next to streets.

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• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  But I’m sure a bicycle guy still understands the benefit of electric cars over regular cars

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• Landsharkgun@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Literally true; but also yes. A car that doesn’t look before turning is the same whether it’s ICE or EV. I’m a bus-and-walking guy, not a bike guy, but any car is a danger to me when I’m crossing the street. It’s not a problem we’re going to solve with batteries. Mass transit, raised crosswalks, narrowing roads, physical speed controls, and densified cities (to name a few) are all things we desperately need.

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