Thats why it’s been called climate change for decades now and not global warming.
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Gigan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Weather is too hot? It’s because of global warming.
Weather too cold? Also global warming.
I’m not denying global warming or climate change, I’m just playing Devil’s advocate to show how a climate denier might view this.
It just looks dumb when they claim that any/all evidence proves their point. Maybe it’s just cold because it’s January? December was very mild where I live and it’s supposed to be unusually warm next week. I suppose that also proves global warming?
oehm@midwest.social 8 months ago
SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 8 months ago
As a natural pedant, I have to point out that that’s not quite true. Decades ago, people talked about global warming (due to the greenhouse effect) because we feared that it would lead to major climate change.
Then, it led to major climate change. Now we talk about that. Global warming is still a thing, it’s just the effects have upstaged it as a topic.
Gigan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I agree, but the tweet in the OP said warming
DeadPand@midwest.social 8 months ago
Global warming and climate change are the same thing, not understanding that is not an excuse for ignorant arguing
Render@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Is warming not a change in climate?
PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If this is you playing Devil’s Advocate, then I have to voice my concern that the Devil has retained a lawyer that makes Trump’s attorneys look competent by comparison.
IndiBrony@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Charlotte Richards was a good lawyer!
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And I wholeheartedly love anyone who gets that ❤️
Perfide@reddthat.com 8 months ago
Weather is too hot? It’s because of global warming.
Weather too cold? Also global warming.
Literally yes. It’s not our fault if people are too stupid to realize weather =! climate, are too skeptical to trust the science. Regardless of whether people believe it, it’s literally the facts of the matter that global warming is the cause of these extreme weather events.
I’m really confused what your point is. Climate change deniers looking at objective facts and rejecting them because they can’t comprehend a warmer climate could cause colder weather means they are fucking stupid, not that the facts are wrong. We don’t need to play advocate for dumbassery
Maybe it’s just cold because it’s January?
January had been super mild near me, average lows in the 30s with actual average being like 50, up until this past week when the cold front came in from the north and literally overnight temps dropped to the negatives. I was closely monitoring weather radars this week, I literally watched the cold front coming in… and look at that, the cold front has finally mostly passed over me and it’s once again in the comparatively balmy 30s, and supposed to be even warmer next week. Huh, guess it’s not just because it’s January, who knew?
The whole winter has been super mild actually, besides literally this weeks cold front it’s been warmer on average than it would’ve been in early Autumn here 15ish years ago. We used to frequently get the first blizzard of the year in October, now it takes an abnormal cold front coming down from the literal arctic to even get a blizzard at all, in January! That’s fucking alarming.
Sticky@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You’re getting downvoted to oblivion, but I do see and agree with your point: “Branding matters”
A significant portion of the population will not rub two brain cells together to understand the “warming -> change” connection, as reasonable as it is. Same thing with the “defund the police” slogan. Yes, when you understand the concept you can see the meaning, but for those that don’t bother to understand the concept, the “brand name” is the beginning and the end of thought applied. When the “brand name” is easily attackable, the idea is dead so far as they’re concerned.
As frustrating as it is, persuasive arguments need to also appeal to those who are persuaded by quips and jokes as well as those who are persuaded by logic and reason. Unfortunately “Global Warming”, the “old brand” is still sticking around, and still able to be joked away by many people, hence the reason for the image post in the first place.
crapwittyname@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The problem with that position is that it’s anti-scientific. If someone is scientifically illiterate then their opinion doesn’t count anymore than my opinion on the supremacy of reading Tolstoy in the original Russian. I can’t read Russian so it doesn’t matter what I say. If, however, the majority of bilingual Russian/English speakers tell me that the best way to enjoy War and Peace is to learn Russian, I will believe them, even if I don’t bother taking the time to learn that language.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 8 months ago
weather is a heat engine, more heat in the air makes weather more extreme and powerful
just like nitrous in a car engine makes it more extreme and powerful
Its not a hard concept to grab if you dont have a cultish politically motivated “NUH UH” mindset to anything you hear that didnt come from the 3 lying fucking conmen you listen to ( general you, not you specific)
PunnyName@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Why play devil’s advocate? Why advocate for the devil in the first place?
Instead of trying to mask any ignorance or opinions of your own, simply share your actual opinion, and don’t try to think for others, please.
Krauerking@lemy.lol 8 months ago
Yeah, still way to many people being contrarious just to help push a side they dont even believe in for the reason of… They think it’s annoying that other people care?
Truly a great use of time. /sTruly, it might just be that they believe what they pretend to not and just want someone to confirm they are wrong because otherwise it’s such not a worthwhile position to hold unless we are all getting paid to think about it.
Mango@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Don’t poke the echo chamber too hard. The mods might ban you for reasonable discussion.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 8 months ago
not an echo chamber, you’re just a couple of dipshits. you really think the jury is still out on this one? go to grill
Mango@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You’re making my point for me thanks.
psud@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The reason it goes both ways is the heat puts more energy in the weather. My country is getting rain like it was a la Niña year, in an el niño year. Air currents move and America gets snow
The climate is changing. That affects weather. Weather is chaotic, small influences can have large effects. Climate change is a large influence.
SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s why people moved away from global warming and use climate change.
Yes, overall the earth is warming but that destabilization affects the climate making summers hotter, winters colder, storms stronger etc.
Gigan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I agree, but the tweet in the OP said warming
themeatbridge@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The planet is warming overall. This causes climate change as the polar ice melts. It means more extremes in temperatures and localized colder temperatures, and OP explained why. OP wasn’t wrong, and you’re being deliberately obtuse.
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
smh they should have moved to global cooling, then we wouldn’t be in this situation. Next time you are upset about the temperature just know that there were rows of homes just waiting there, but nooooo you had to be equal and give climate change a try. See how that worked out don’tcha?