In this case, you have to develop an individual vaccine for every patient based on the DNA from their own cancer. That’s actually a lot of work. $10K a poke is very reasonable given that you could easily spend 10 or 100 times that on conventional treatment.
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Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 10 months ago
You know what this sounds like to me?
Like Moderna is gonna ask $10k a poke.
mriguy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Goblin_Mode@ttrpg.network 10 months ago
Okay but forcing someone to pay you $550k (averaging your values) to not die maybe is still incredibly fucking awful, so it’s really not hard to be better than that.
I can respect that developing a personalized vaccine might take a lot of work but I’m not a chemist. I don’t know how much work it actually takes, nor do I know how many vaccines a person would realistically need to cure their cancer be it stage 1 up to stage 4?
What I do know is that if this vaccine ends up being more effective than the traditional method then it is a wonderful discovery, but if it leads to life-long medical debt and subsequent financial ruin all the same your life is still fucked… I guess I’d rather be poor and alive, but I’d also rather not be destitute.
madcaesar@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I know it sounds awful, but I’ve had family members die of cancer in the US and Europe, and 10k for a cure wouid have been a bargain in either case.
And hopefully with time the price will come down.
If this truly works, it’ll be one of those things that cheaper for society to pay for than letting the disease drag on and fighting it with our old methods.
Xanis@lemmy.world 10 months ago
The $10k isn’t really the point. That’s just a number thrown out as an example of what we expect a company to do. The real issue is power. Worst case it’ll be either you go into essentially permanant debt by attempting the treatment, try traditional treatments with wildly varying success rates, or probably just die. Money isn’t even a question really, it’s using cancer and the treatment of it as a way to profit at levels far beyond reasonable.
A business should make money. Has to stay open somehow. Make surviving achievable for a good life and still make millions. We were almost universally in shock when that Bowser fellow has his wages garnished by 30% for the rest of his life. Apart from the legal aspect as a reason, how would this be any different?
This is the world we live in. It shouldn’t be though. I lost my Mom to cancer and she’s one of those people who would have attempted traditional methods due to the overwhelming cost this one promises. I doubt she’s the only one.
IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Fortunately both Musk and Bezoa will be safe from cancer instead of all those thousands of Mozarts they told us about
FaceDeer@kbin.social 10 months ago
Oh, what villains! Developing a cure for cancer and asking for ten thousand dollars for it!
In terms of cancer treatment, do you have any idea how small ten thousand dollars is?
Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 10 months ago
yournamehere@lemm.ee 10 months ago
america is just sad
Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
Do drugs other than betel nuts grow on trees in your country?
JustMy2c@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Dying from cancer is also sad. Chemo is also sad. Who wins? Find out tonight at 8pm
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
When it’s inevitably going to be a lot less than that, will you eat your words?
FaceDeer@kbin.social 10 months ago
If it cost ten thousand dollars I'd throw an enormous party. That's already a very small price for a cancer treatment.
NAK@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Right? Bunch of morons who never had cancer, or never knew anyone who was diagnosed and treated for cancer, thinking a 10k treatment is expensive.
Communism Stan’s be Stanning
gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
10k is expensive
Less expensive than now? Yes
Still expensive
Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 10 months ago
As soon as you stop eating that pharma boot, homie.
arc@lemm.ee 10 months ago
The article suggests the vaccine prevents the recurrence of a specific cancer by 44% vs conventional treatment alone. So let’s be pessimists and say it only prevents recurrence by 22%. Should we eat our words that still 1/5th of people who’d otherwise die or suffer horribly from a recurring cancer now don’t?
I think I would be more skeptical of the eventual price of this treatment and less about its effectiveness.
Kedly@lemm.ee 10 months ago
Damn you weren’t kidding about the Pharma Bros. The fuckin Tankies are glad to not be the dumbasses in thread for once
R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Sure would be nice if capitalism didn’t exist 🤪
sugartits@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Squizzy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Across a publicly funded network with technology originally paid for by the public.
ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Brought to you by Carl’s Jr.
AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Publicly funded? Sounds like commie shit to me.
R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
/jk right? Right???
GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 months ago
Capitalism is the only system that can make things dont you kno?