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FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and Sam Altman for those who don’t want to click through.

And I have no idea which I would choose to face off from those four, let alone who would win.

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Diplomjodler@feddit.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You could put them in a sack and hit the sack with a stick. You’d never hit the wrong guy.

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- FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I like this idea much better than picking one of them as the worst person in tech for 2023. Can we do the stick beating instead?
  
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  - Diplomjodler@feddit.de ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    But we definitely need to Zuck in there too. And maybe Thiel, as a special guest.
    
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    FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The more the merrier!
    
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- HowManyNimons@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Could I? Yayyyy!
  
  Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack. Whack.
  
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SinningStromgald@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Theil wants a techno libertarian oligarchy with no regulations ala Blade Runner.

Musk wants the rich to escape to Mars while destroying earth and dooming the poor’s.

Bezos wants to send the poor’s into space along with heavy industry and turn earth into a rich person paradise ala Black Mirror “Fifteen Million Merits”.

Altman is just a shitty rich person in tech wasting precious resources to teach a computer to create porn. Becaue we all know that’s what 99% of people do and will use AI for. He’s also a prepper which means he’s a selfish cunt.

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- SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I love your descriptions for all of them. If you have some free time would you mind writing it for everyone in the brackets?
  
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- QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m shocked that Sam Altman won out over SBF
  
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  - SinningStromgald@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Sam Bankman-Fried is definitely bad for what he did and his belief in effective altruism, which is just another smoke screen to not properly tax rich people because they “donate to charities”. You could argue his getting into crypto also makes him bad because crypto mining is bad but he’s not on the same level as Sam Altman. Not even close.
    
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    QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I’d rather pick someone who did something deserving of life in prison than someone who didn’t, but maybe that’s just me.
    
    Also, Sam Altman has no equity in, and was only paid $73k by OpenAI last year. You can dislike him for the rumors surrounding his managerial style and whatnot, but it’s pretty clear he isn’t exploiting people to get shit rich like everyone else on this list.
    
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  - bamboo@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    SBF hasn’t been in the headlines as much recently.
    
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magnor@lemmy.magnor.ovh ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
No matter who wins we all lose. That’s kind of the point whenever these guys turn up.

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- FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Well, and sadly, said.
  
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Altofaltception@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
To make things slightly easier it’s Musk v Thiel and Bezos v Altman.

In the first matchup, I would pick Musk over Thiel for being a bigger POS in general.

In the second matchup I would pick Bezos for the larger impact he has had on the world.

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- FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m with you on the second, but I would have a really hard time with the first because Musk is more overtly a piece of shit, but Thiel has had so much influence over the years, including elevating Elon Musk to the position where he is today. I guess if it’s the worst of 2023 and we’re restricting it solely to what we know they’ve said and done in 2023, it would be Musk. But I think overall, it is probably Thiel just because there wouldn’t be an Elon Musk anyone had heard about without Peter Thiel.
  
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  - Altofaltception@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    This is the 2023 matchup, so I guess it would put Musk on top
    
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    cmbabul@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Musk was likely worse in 2023 and does suck a lot in general, Thiel is more dangerous in general
    
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- TWeaK@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  In the first matchup, I would pick Musk over Thiel for being a bigger POS in general.
  
  But Musk’s acquisition of Twitter is in itself subservient to Theil’s overarching political goals. One has been in the limelight more, but the other has caused more harm overall.
  
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- overzeetop@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  This is the 2023 matchup. You don’t consider Jordan’s performance at UNC when determining their championship status this year. Heck, despite the past damage done, i don’t think. Bezos, for his 2023 tech fuckery, should have made it out of the first round.
  
  By the same metric, Musk easily tops Thiel first 2023 and is the clear shoo-in as champion of the worst.
  
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catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Why do people hate Altman? Genuinely OOTL.

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- FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  He’s not really as bad as the other three, but he did take a nonprofit company and turn it into a multibillion dollar profit machine which has a massive carbon and fresh water footprint.
  
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  - Nurgle@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Also some view ChatGPT (and the other “AIs”) as massive plagiarism machines.
    
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    lemmyingly@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    AI or not, plagiarism appears to happen a lot. AI just makes it a little easier than it was before.
    
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- squiblet@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  His world coin project is one of the sketchiest. Paying people in poor countries to get scanned by this creepy orb thing? Odd.
  
  His sister has also vociferously accused him of molesting her for a period of time when she was 4 and he was 13.
  
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RobotToaster@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
What did Thiel do to make the internet hate him as much as the other three?

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- FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  So, so, so many things.
  
  Let’s start with him saying women getting the vote was bad for democracy and we can continue on from there.
  
  huffpost.com/…/peter-thiel-women-democracy_n_5747…
  
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- sirdorius@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s a full time job to answer completely, but from what I know he finances escape fantasies for the rich which they call seasteading. He calls it a libertarian ideal to create these new colonial city states, but what he means is liberty for his ilk from taxes, regulation and societal rules. Meanwhile his brainchild Palantir erodes the rights of the poor people who are left behind through surveillance, military technology and ICE funding. But this is all in line with his ideology, because apartheid “works” in South Africa according to Thiel
  
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eran_morad@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Musk.

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