Comment on Threads is officially starting to test ActivityPub integration

DmMacniel@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• ad_on_is@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Right??

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• Blamemeta@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I suspect lemm.ee will, but not much beyond that. Hell, theyre still fedded with explodingheads and hexbear.

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  • Zaktor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Threads isn’t going to federate with Lemmy. It’s not the same sort of communication and the crossovers are ugly and confusing. Mastodon is where the real federation/defederation decisions will take place.

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    • Sl00k@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I can see a social media implementation of a communities section and feeding off lemmy that way.

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      • Zaktor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sure, if they clone Reddit then I definitely could see it, though I think Lemmy communities are a much bigger risk for them to open up to since they’re so moderation dependent. At least with Mastodon what you see is all based on your follows. Reddit loves to abdicate on responsibility by just leaving it all to the mods, but I don’t think Meta can get away with that, and especially when they don’t directly control the mods.

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  • wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I believe exploding heads is gone.

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• Carter@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is a bad take.

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  • spaduf@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Worth noting that Meta through threads currently plans to collect and monetize the data of all users that it federates with.

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    • Eldritch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Worth noting. Anyone could already be doing this without threads.

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      • spaduf@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        IANAL, but I’m not sure that’s legal everywhere facebook operates.

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    • nicetriangle@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That's actually the most interesting concern I've seen raised about this. I hadn't thought about that. The embrace, extend, extinguish thing is what you see most people raise as a concern.

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      • Zaktor@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        All your stuff is already public on the internet without any special access being granted. If they want the convenience of receiving ActivityPub packets and metadata, they can just stand up a honeypot instance and some fake accounts. The Fediverse isn’t built for privacy.

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    • 0x1C3B00DA@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They don't need ActivityPub for that. Nearly everything on the fediverse is public and scrapable. If they want to monetize fediverse data, they already can

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    • BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Meta also doesn't need to federate in order to do that, since federation just accesses public data.

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    • Carter@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They don’t need to federate to do that.

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    • DmMacniel@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      that’s even worse than I imagined it :O

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  • FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    [deleted]

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    • Linus_Torvalds@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In how far? I think it is actually a valid criticism of a very strongly opinionated take.

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      • Marsupial@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        To be fair, get fucked?

        I think that’s a pretty fair response to shilling for corps.

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  • sour@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    why

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• cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Why would they if they want the Fediverse to grow. Gatekeeping is awful.

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  • sour@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    no help of big company needed for growth

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  • moitoi@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Infinity grow is a mirage. We need to understand that. It’s fine if a social media as a limit.

    What’s important is how you manage to keep it in life. Even here, you have a limit. It’s conservative to think that it will last for ever as you will encontre the same issue as with infinite grow.

    The fact is that thing appear, have a lifespan and die. Social media aren’t immune to it.

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  • awwwyissss@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t want the fediverse to grow if it has anything to do with Meta.

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• HeartyBeast@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Because?

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  • DmMacniel@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because I don’t want Facebook to get my content, nor do I want their content in my feeds. I joined the fediverse to be as far away from corpos (facebook, twitter, youtube) as possible.

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    • BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Facebook, and literally anyone else, can already get all your content.

      It would take all of a second to scrape your user page. Obviously that wouldn't grant your IP address or anything, but neither would federation.

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  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    1. Meta is only pushing, not pulling. So if you’re an influential person there is less incentive to create a masto account. Threads content will appear in both places, but Mastodon content will only get exposure with mastodon’s smaller user base.

    2. The fear is that the broader Fediverse will get hooked on a flood of Threads content. They have much more daily active users, and as we already know, large instances can easily dominate a feed. And Threads will be gigantic.

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    • Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      To 1:

      We’re starting with the ability to follow threads users from activitypub clients, but we will get to the ability to follow accounts from activitypub servers on threads as well

      If 2. will actually be a problem some instances will defederate, while many users will choose an instance which allows them to follow who they want. I’m all for interoperable social media/messaging, because it gives users the choice.

      I’m curious when they’ll add inbound federation. It could lead to massive amounts of spam, so they’ll probably block instances or inbound traffic quite quickly.

      Hopefully it won’t end like email, where it’s really difficult to start federating to the big providers (Threads). But even then, we’ll still be able to choose any of the current instances and continue without them.

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  • sour@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    the shitty threads

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• throws_lemy@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Tell that to this guy

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  • DmMacniel@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Mhm, just because John Mastodon embraces Meta doesn’t mean that I have to like it.

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• covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The great Mastodon.social itsself would federate they wrote some blogs back when threads anounced activitypub integtation

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• DarkThoughts@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I feel the only thing I don't see on kbin is 18+ stuff. lol
  All the political extreme instances and their users seem to be still there.

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