Superintelligent AI Just Pried the Keyboard from my Cold, Dead Hands
nicetriangle@kbin.social 1 year ago
Geez the reporting around this has been ridiculously sensationalist
DemBoSain@midwest.social 1 year ago
kromem@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Because that’s the version that gets posted and gets clicked on.
A dry technical writeup looking at the name of the project and how it indicates this is a different approach more in line with DeepMind’s work and what that means in the context of doing high school level math is going to be interesting to only a handful of people.
But an article that’s contentious and gets hundreds of comments about how “AI is BS” to “AI is dangerous” all arguing with each other drives engagement.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You mean OpenAI didn’t just create a superintelligent artificial brain that will surpass all human ability and knowledge and make our species obsolete?
kescusay@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The funny thing is, last year when ChatGPT was released, people freaked out about the same thing.
Some of it was downright gleeful. Buncha people told me my job (I’m a software developer) was on the chopping block, because ChatGPT could do it all.
Turns out, not so much.
I swear, I think some people really want to see software developers lose their jobs, because they hate what they don’t understand, and they don’t understand what we do.
Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
As a software developer, I do want to see software developers lose their jobs to AI. This shouldn’t be surprising, as the purpose of a lot of software development is to put other people out of a job via automation, and that’s fundamentally a good thing. The alternative is like wanting a return to preindustrial society. Automation generally raises quality of life.
The real problem is that we still haven’t figured out how to distribute the benefits of societies automation efforts equitably so that they raise quality of life for everyone.
nicetriangle@kbin.social 1 year ago
Yeah that would be all fine and well if it meant we're on track for some post-work egalitarian utopia but you and I know that's not at all where this is heading.
Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 year ago
We’ve figured it out. They already had a start on it in the 19th and 20th centuries. However, those with the means have spent the last 100 years screaming bloody murder. Dismantling government and any progress that had been made to address it. As well as invading and overthrowing any foreign group that though about opposing them.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Even if ChatGPT gets far in advance of the way it is now in terms of writing code, at the very least you’re still going to need people to go over the code as a redundancy. Who is going to trust an AI so much that they won’t risk it making coding errors? I think that the job of at the very least understanding how code works will be safe for a very long time, and I don’t think ChatGPT will get that advanced for a very long time either, if ever.
kescusay@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There’s more to it than that, even. It takes a developer’s level of knowledge to even begin to tell ChatGPT to make something sensible.
Sit an MBA down in front of a ChatGPT window and tell them to make an application. The application has to save state, it has to use the company’s OAuth login system, it has to store data in a PostgreSQL database, and it has to have granular, roles-based access control.
Then watch the MBA struggle because they don’t understand that…
The level of knowledge and detail required to make ChatGPT produce something useful on a large scale is beyond an MBA’s skillset. They literally don’t know what they don’t know.
I use an LLM in my job now, and it’s helpful. I can tell it to produce snippets of code for a specific purpose that I know how to describe accurately, and it’ll do it. Saves me time having to do it manually.
But if my company ever decided it didn’t need developers anymore because ChatGPT can do it all, it would collapse inside six months, and everything would be broken due to bad pull requests from non-developers who don’t know how badly they’re fucking up. They’d have to rehire me… And I’d be asking for a lot more money to clean up after the poor MBA who’d been stuck trying to do my job.
thisfro@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
Sadly, too many
nicetriangle@kbin.social 1 year ago
That's a fuckin bleak outcome for a lot of people if the job transition goes from <doing the cool problem solving/creative things> to <cleaning up after the robots' work>
archomrade@midwest.social 1 year ago
It isn’t surprising that this is the way we conceptualize the potential impact of AI, but it’s frustrating to see it tossed around as if AI disruption is a forgone conclusion.
AI will start re-defining the problems that code is written to solve long before we get anywhere close to GPT models replacing human workers, and that’s a big enough problem by itself.
It used to be that before code could even be employed to solve a problem, it had to be understood procedurally. That’s increasingly not the case, given that ML is routinely employed to decode things that were previously thought to be too chaotic to be understood, like brain waves and image pixel data. I don’t know why we’re so sure of ourselves that machine learning is just a gimmick and poses no real threat, just because anthropomorphizing it seems silly.
dustyData@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Your comment reminds me the cesspit of Xitter with the generative AI bros trying to conflate AI with assistive tech. They seriously argued that “artistically impaired” was a genuine disability and that they were entitled to generative AI training sets because it allowed them to draw. It was the most disingenuous argument, that they had a right to steal artists work, and leave them without work, to train their AI because they couldn’t be bothered to rub a pen against some paper.
Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
Hey! Artist here. I love drawing. My hands go numb within minutes and they shake more every year. I appreciate having a tool and medium that allows great artistic control despite these facts.
Now, if you’re really butthurt about the training data you can use adobe’s proprietary model. I for one think it’s good that peasants have an open available tool that isn’t owned by adobe, even if it was trained less proprietarily.
This anger about it reminds me of deviant art artists getting mad at each other for “copying my style”
And the fact that copywrite used to be about the general good, and promotion of creative works.
This world needs new artistic priorities. Pen and paper aren’t losing their place, but new tech will lead to independent artists creating entire movies, games, and holodeck style experiences without looming overhead of whatever art oligarch holds the funding.
Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 1 year ago
Artistically impaired, lol that made my day!
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 1 year ago
I mean, I was literally diagnosed with “clumsy child syndrome” (we call it dyspraxia now) as a kid, in part because I’m artistically impaired.
nicetriangle@kbin.social 1 year ago
Lotta people have already lost jobs because of it. I know a few personally. People with college educations. We're just getting started with this, it will get worse.
kescusay@lemmy.world 1 year ago
In software development? Not many - and certainly not at smart companies.
ChatGPT is a tool. It goes in the developer toolbox because it’s useful. But it doesn’t replace the developer, any more than a really good screwdriver replaces the construction worker.
More and more, understanding how to use LLMs for software development will be a job requirement, and developers who can’t adapt to that may find themselves unemployed. But most of us will adapt to it fine.
I have. I’m using Copilot these days. It’s great. And the chances of it replacing me are roughly 0%, because it doesn’t actually know anything about our applications, and if told to make code by someone else who doesn’t know anything about them either, it’ll make useless garbage.
c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Those people were always misinformed.
At some point in the future AI will replace most programmers, because AI will allow senior devs to automate large portions of their codebase. Human devs will act more like QA, fixing the small errors during the automation process.
Either way it’s a tool to by used by you to multiply your efforts, not one to replace you.
Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 year ago
You laugh now, but just you wait. If it turns out they've created a hyperintelligent waifu/husbando, this will inevitably lead to plummeting birth rates and the end of human civilisation.
stifle867@programming.dev 1 year ago
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Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 1 year ago
One can only hope
FaceDeer@kbin.social 1 year ago
If it's really hyperintelligent it'll realize that human extinction would inconvenience it, and so would Cyrano de Bergerac us into forming healthy relationships with our human soulmates while researching fertility technologies and whatnot.