In this case it’s definitely both.
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jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 11 months ago
The right wing is always stupid. Everyone else is sometimes stupid. But the right? Always completely pants on head stupid, if not cartoonishly evil.
Diplomjodler@feddit.de 11 months ago
Cyo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Both far left and far right are always stupid. At least here in my country Far left: Burns and destroy local business and destroy public transport used by all citizens just to protest and then for some reason blame the police for that. Far right: Constantly having hallucinations about the United Nations being controlled by far left and vaccines = poison.
Both are in a competence to show who has less neurons.
Saltblue@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Far left: Burns and destroy local business and destroy public transport used by all citizens just to protest and then for some reason blame the police for that.
Go and protest by the sidewalks on Sundays, they are not gonna give a shit, if they even notice, break a few windows(from banks if possible) disrupt traffic and you are gonna be on the news, they will call you a terrorist but they at least will know you are there and ready to do shit.
The french know what’s up.
Cyo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What I mention is what happened in October of 2019 in Chile.
Yeah, I know that they need to attract attention to a protest to be listened. BUT by no means it justifies destroying and robbing small businesses, burning churches and destroy schools (while asking for better education)
They literally went and made a mess of things. They could have just made a crowd, block the road, go to the government institutions but they choosed violence to other citizens. After that they left things even worse than they were, that’s a sign of lack of common sense and responsibility.
Many people lost their jobs, schools ended with heavy damag, the Metro stations where I live ended up in a mess, and for some reason they burned churches. Yeah.
Saltblue@lemmy.world 11 months ago
3 years later and you are still talking about it, so my point stands, people in power need a reminder that people can also choose violence.
They could have just made a crowd, block the road
Send the dogs, use gas and violence, disperse the crowd, a lot of policemen infiltrate the protests to exacerbate the violence, people soon follow.
Your are sheltered btw, no right has been won by the people asking nicely to those in power.
Gabu@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You fell for the psyops. Your neighbor country, Brazil, already tried the route you’re proposing – people got beat up by police, the same police that infiltrated the protests and (proven, in court) destroyed public infrastructure.
Mirshe@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m reminded of a quote: “a riot is the language of the unheard.” When the opposition will vilify ANY attempt to stand together and demand change as a “riot” and respond with state violence, what reason do you have to protest peacefully? If they’re just going to gas protestors, use dogs and pepper spray and bullets (both rubber and regular) and armored vehicles, then why bother trying to act like “the bigger man”?
DrownedRats@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Do not attribute malice to that which can be explained by stupidity… But never fully discount it.
FatTony@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Everytime I see this sentence my brain just refuses to understand it. What does this mean?
JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
It means to not assume a person is evil if their actions could be explained by them being stupid instead.
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You are walking on the street and a big fat guy bumps into you. Assume they are just clumsy don’t assume they were trying to run you down.
This doesn’t mean he unaware, this doesn’t mean ignore red flags, this doesn’t mean to not have a healthy level of caution. It means assume good faith from deeply imperfect people until evidence no longer supports it.
Shard@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It means if you don’t know if someone did something because they had evil plans or were fking stulud, its safe to assume they were fking stupid at the point of the incident.
Especially if the evil plan would have been convoluted and required things to align just perfect for the plan to be successful.
blue_struct@feddit.de 11 months ago
If you want to look for more information:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_razor
root_beer@midwest.social 11 months ago
I quit believing in Hanlon’s razor years ago when I realized that it’s clearly both. Both stupid malice and malicious stupidity.