Comment on What happened to the flat earthers who demonstrated that the earth is round in the netfilx documentary ?

• snooggums@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  By default all humans should be treated with dignity unless they are causing direct harm to others. Flat Earthers are kind of an edge case because their anti science and evidence approach is tied in with the antivax movement so they are harming others indirectly.

  MAGA idiots, racists, and other hate filled people do not deserve dignity. In amedical setting, sure, but not in the real world where they are causing harm.

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  • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No, al humans should be treated with dignity always. We should do all in our power to stop and restraint those causing or intending to cause harm to others. But no crime justifies cruelty or indignity.

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    • Azzu@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I guess then you start messing with the definition of dignity. I don’t think it’s very dignified to be restrained for one’s fucked up views.

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      • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I know this is radical to you, but even criminals retain rights, even if they’re imprisoned for their crimes. Even due process and right to legal defense is about preserving human dignity for all.

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      • andrewta@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        He doesn’t mean literally restrain line with chains or something. He means figuratively restrain

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    • Rhoeri@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’re wrong.

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      • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Such deep argument, much ethics.

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      • dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Nah uh

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    • InformalTrifle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Are you serious? There’s a huge number of humans that deserve no dignity. Terrorists and paedophiles spring to mind but there are many many more.

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      • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yes, even terrorist and pedophiles deserve a minimum of human dignity. It’s not about their morals. It’s about mine and our collective societal moral principles. To deny another human being dignity, no matter how awful their actions might’ve been, says nothing about the other person’s character, but speaks volumes about the person advocating indignity towards others.

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      • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Think about this. The racist police officers who killed George Floyd had the exact same mindset that you do. They thought that they could treat him as less than human because he was a criminal. Fox news, yes, the MAGA channel, ran with a story that tried to justify his murder because he was a suspected criminal. How do you feel sharing moral values with them?

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      • ultranaut@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I agree there are people undeserving, but that doesn’t change the fact that there are inalienable rights inherent to all people. If the state is going to legitimately enforce the law it must respect those rights while doing so.

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  • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    TIL hospitals aren’t real guys!

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    • snooggums@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Haha!

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• bionicjoey@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “Don’t let the horse run the hospital”

  -John Mulaney

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  • lingh0e@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I didn’t even know a horse could do that!

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    • vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why not, they are great at running.

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• michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Generally in most cases schizophrenia isn’t catching whereas poisonous stupidity spreads. It’s important to keep the disease from infecting too many new adherents. Think of humor as containment.

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• ivanafterall@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Unfortunately, the guy who thinks he's Napoleon usually does run the hospital and most other organizations.

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