You’re the asshole here. There’s SUVs and crossovers (aka short SUVs), almost zero sedans are manufactured these days thanks to the dumb ass govt and cafe. I don’t even want nor have**** an SUV, but judging people for having something you don’t want is ignorant and foolish. People pick from what is available for the most part. Giant cheap ass SUVs are easier to find than a small sedan that gets 4 mpg better mileage and that’s the govt’s fault.
nutsack@lemmy.world 11 months ago
anyone who buys an SUV is a stupid fucker there are cars that have just as much seat space in them that are more sensible
grayman@lemmy.world 11 months ago
nutsack@lemmy.world 11 months ago
it has nothing to do with personal preference. that is your own selfish rhetorical frame. those things are wasteful and dangerous and require shitty hostile infrastructure. they are also a huge scam and you don’t need one. Americans are depressed as fuck.
IDontHavePantsOn@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I have a 7 seat tandem bicycle and tow a wagon on my grocery trips. Don’t mind the fact that the nearest Walmart is a 14 mile trip since I can’t take the highway on my 7 seat bicycle, that’s not relevant. I just have to keep in mind that as my toddlers grow their pedals and seats need to be adjusted, but at least they should have more power to drive us up 15° grades as they grow. Thank goodness we will never have to leave our home in any case of emergency because our nearest hospital is only 10 miles away, well, make that 20 miles since we can’t use the highway. At least we have the consolation of only getting 8’ of snow each winter. Could be worse. Just gotta get my 4 year old to use his weight for traction. So long as we have public transport we should be just fine. All I have to do now is lobby my government for the infrastructure to create public transport. That should be easy. I mean it’s one infrastructure, what could it cost? $10?
WereCat@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Suzuki Ignis is stupid then?
David_Eight@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Kinda yeah, why not buy a hatchback instead? The Suzuki being taller will inherently have more wind resistance, hence worse gas milage and Co2. Unless you absolutely need the extra ground clearance, which very very few do, it’s stupid.
WereCat@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It is taller but it’s overall still a small car and also very light. It also uses battery to help with acceleration a bit (mild hybrid). I don’t think just because it’s taller it automatically makes it worse. There must be other factors to consider too.
And the reason I personally don’t like hatchbacks is because I’m quite tall and I don’t like sitting low as it feels uncomfortable to me and makes getting in and out of a car pain in the ass… especially when parking near other cares with little space to open the door.
David_Eight@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I don’t think just because it’s taller it automatically makes it worse.
It makes it get less mpg/range. Also Less “safe” as the higher center of gravity will mean taking emergency maneuvers “swerving to avoid collision” more difficult and the chance of rollover more likely. These are just facts.
And the reason I personally don’t like hatchbacks is because I’m quite tall and I don’t like sitting low as it feels uncomfortable to me and makes getting in and out of a car pain in the ass…
I’m 6’5 and understand where you’re coming from but, your comfort is basically bad for the environment in a small minute way is my point. I’m sure it’s still more efficient then 99% of cars in general by the sound of it though.
CADmonkey@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I have an SUV thst weighs 2,000 pounds and has a 1.3 liter engine, it seats two, you need to stop being a dumbass and sell your gas guzzling car because it absolutely has more wasted seats and a larger engine.
David_Eight@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What suv is that?
spirinolas@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s a crossover. Mine has an even smaller engine.
David_Eight@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Ok but, what make and model exactly?
random65837@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Who said it’s unessasary? You? Speak for your own needs. What about the utility part? Where are you putting large bulky items? How aboutany bags of top soil? Trash going to a dump maybe?
It’s amazing how pathetically ignorant you are.
GoodEye8@lemm.ee 11 months ago
How often do you carry large bulky items that you specifically need an SUV for? Because I’m pretty certain the justification you use happens maybe 4 times a year.
random65837@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Constantly, kids, all the shit that comes along with them, groceries, home improvement store runs. Are you in the US? I don’t think you grasp what (today) Small SUV/CUVs are. Theres also no need for “justification”. They get better MPG and put out less on the emissions side than the normal cars did before them, there’s no rational argument against them. Just people that like to cry.
GoodEye8@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You can fit a dog, 1 child, 1 toddler, a stroller and 3-4 bags of groceries and have space over for “kid shit” in one VW Passat which is the US equivalent of a mid-size vehicle. The idea that you NEED an SUV for kids, kid shit and groceries is just false. And it’s not like you’re doing home improvement store runs while all the before-mentioned people/things in the car which means those can also just as easily fit.
As for “they get better MPG” feel free to show me the SUV that has this exceptional mileage that has similar spec sedans beaten.
bigschnitz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Google pedestrian deaths by SUVs compared to conventional sedans. To say there is no rational argument against the SUV trend is laughably ignorant.
It also confuses me why yanks keep pretending small SUVs have more space than conventional station wagons. Unless you’re going full Yankee and think a 7 seater is “small”…
veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 11 months ago
In Not just Bikes video on the subject, they’ve demonstrated that the utility portion of small trucks/ SUVs have been getting weaker over time, and yet people still buy them.
vsh@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Once you drive one, it will change your pov
mob@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
My Ford Taurus isn’t going to get into the Uintas or Wasatch range. Getting rid of my SUV will really hurt my wifes ability to release rehabilitated animals.
But, I don’t want to be a stupid fucker. What should I get after I get rid of my SUV?
M0oP0o@mander.xyz 11 months ago
Subaru hatchbacks are great off road and have about the same capacity as most SUVs.
ur_dad@lemmy.world 11 months ago
100% agree. I’m a handyman and drive an outback. People are usually surprised when I open the hatch and it’s full of my tool boxes.
mob@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Pretty low clearance but maybe we can get some beavers in there.
I was being snarky originally but you could have a point there.
gulasch_hanuta@feddit.de 11 months ago
You are literally the only reason they should exist. One does not need such a car in suburbs or cities.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz 11 months ago
The older (until 2003 ish) Impreza can hold a whole ass washer/dryer/oven/dishwasher in the back no issue then they made it to round. I remember helping someone move and they had a stupid “truck” but could not get the bed cover off so me and my snoopy looking car moved all the appliances (3 trips) while the “truck” moved boxes and flat furniture.
Number1SummerJam@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Even an older model SUV like a Honda CRV will take up a lot less space than its modern counterpart. Station wagons can be sexy too if that’s your style.
greenmarty@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Don’t let me start about my station wagon. I can get them back seats perfectly horizontal connecting the back space with middle and it makes comfy double bed. Not to mention that under the floor there are tons of storage spaces to keep all the tools and food or whatever out of the way.
mob@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Emissions make sense to me, but does conserving space actually matter?
cosmo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
In cities it does. Here where I live there’s being made a point of existing parking spaces being too narrow for modern cars. They are so much wider these days.
BlackVenom@lemmy.world 11 months ago
While parent is extreme and minimizes that some people have legitimate needs… You do raise another interesting point… You have an SUV and a Fullsize Sedan. I’m sure you have your reasons but it’s an amusing anecdote.
mob@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
yeah. turns out animal rehibition isn’t very profitable and I wasn’t really expecting to end up in a responsible/respectable life. We bought what we could afford.
I take my electric skateboard to school when I can(weather permitting) , but I will choose shitty emissions for a 10-50 mile drive to save an animals life over letting it die or live in a cage. and honestly, I am only going to school to get money to expand the rehabilitation… I will try to get a vehicle that is better for the environment when I can afford it though.
bigschnitz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
A station wagon is easier for moving animals, more space than a small SUV - it’s lower to the ground (huge plus if you have to lift them in, easier for them if you are leading them up a portable ramp).
The trade off is you can’t do soft sand, cross deeper streams etc, but IMO animals don’t need to be released far off track, to me it’s worth the trade off.
greenmarty@lemmy.world 11 months ago
People driving heavy terrain in wilderness around here use jeeps and jeep like cars. Even US army used use them back in the day before monster trucks became a thing.
mob@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
A jeep is definitely a SUV
random65837@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Depends on which model you’re talking about.
greenmarty@lemmy.world 11 months ago
But it’s not huge ass truck like vehicle. One is parked right next to mu European sized car and Jeep’s smaller overall even if bit higher due to being offroad vehicle.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz 11 months ago
A four door jeep is very much a SUV, a two door jeep less so.