Comment on The average car purchased in 2023 emits higher levels of carbon dioxide (CO₂) than its 2013 equivalent. This is due to the large proportion of SUVs in the mix, which tend to be bigger and heavier.

• random65837@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ahahahahaha, fucking station wagon? Seriously? Sorry, the 1980’s are long gone.

  The ridiculous arguments here are priceless. Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, and spoons make people fat right? Why blame the person behind the wheel, when you can blame the tool right? Personal responsibility? What’s that?

  I’m seriously questioning at this point if you people even grasp what a CUV is, because that’s the overwhelming majority herez not the SUVs of 15yrs ago. I for your sake, I hope station wagon means something else there as well. NOBODY wants to be caught dead in a fucking station wagon

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  • bigschnitz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ok so we could’ve saved time if you just said you’re the least cool person imaginable with negative sense of style. Claiming that this is somehow cooler than this is entirely indefensible, SUVs are the literal antithesis of cool, the “soccer mum” moniker is not a term of endearment.

    Aside from just being criminally uncool and unsexy, there are objective ways that SUVs/CUV are worse as well, most notably safety for other road users but also higher cost and of course the one people.lile me care about, that they also that they universally drive worse than a comparable passenger car.

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    • random65837@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Aside from those station wagons literally not exiting here, that I’d assume cx60? Is a lot more plain will less body lines than what we have, that stwag isn’t terrible looking, but still couldn’t do it. If people wanted them, they’d sell them here.

      Also seems they have bigger engines and clearly a larger physical footprint than my wife’s CUV, so that argument is gone as well.

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      • bigschnitz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        If people wanted them, they’d sell them here.

        Yeah depending on where “here” is different things are available. If people don’t buy them or if dealers make more money off SUVs, then they will be gone.

        Also seems they have bigger engines and clearly a larger physical footprint than my wife’s CUV, so that argument is gone as well.

        Size and fuel economy weren’t things I mentioned above, but yeah I agree with you. Usually station wagons, like SUVs, have different engine configurations which dictates fuel economy more than ride height. The fuel efficiency argument against SUVs is a little out of date, the smaller ones are shared chassis with passenger cars often with the same engine, so fuel economy is more or less unchanged. By footprint I guess you mean length, which in the example I have is right, obviously height goes the other way. Smaller SUVs are more comparable to hatchbacks (eg Mazda 3 is the same as CX-30), I don’t think the mid sized car platform is as directly comparable to the mid sized CUV/SUV.

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