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Comment on YouTube cracking on ad blockers.

laylawashere44@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Look this is different than pirating a game or bypassing a newspaper paywall. Watching content on YouTube simply costs money to YouTube. It’s not like torrenting a game or movie, where while you haven’t paid for the content, it didn’t cost anything to the owner other than theoretical revenue. And it’s not like bypassing a newspaper paywall, either, where the cost to the newspaper to serve you the story is practically negligible and the real costs are fixed and not related to how many people actually read the story.

Hosting video costs money and nobody can replace YouTube’s massive library or realistically replicate their business model. I mean just look at image/gif hosting sites, they constantly go bust like Photobucket because storing everyone’s pictures forever and for free isn’t not a real business model.

YouTube needs to be paid for its gonna go the way of Photobucket.

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Fades@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Corpo shill

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- Taringano@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Só your solution is instead of charging the viewer charge who? The person that puts videos up?
  
  Do you really think your anonymized user data is worth the 20 bucks/user the YouTube premium costs?
  
  In your mind YouTube can just sell the data for the 2 billion users they have and instantly make 40 billion dollars a month from that?
  
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  - Gabu@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    If the data isn’t worth it, why are these cunts stealing it?
    
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    papertowels@lemmy.one ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    They’re “stealing” the data if they hacked another platform and got a hold of the data there.
    
    You are literally using their website. You are giving them your data.
    
    You want to stop them from “stealing” your data, stop using their services.
    
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    Taringano@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Worth something, not 20 bucks per user per month.
    
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    ayyndrew@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The data is only useful because they can use it to run ads
    
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uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Google has billions. YouTupe pirates (can we call ourselves that yet?) are not going to bankrupt Google. In fact, they’ll spend more on their crackdown.

But Google is beholden to its shareholders, whose interests are diametrically opposed to that of the general public, so any gain by Google is a loss to the rest of us.

So any profit we can deny the Google machine remains instead in the economy, rather than vaulted in offshore accounts or used to further lock down the empires of the shareholders.

The day I can’t watch YouTube sans commercials is the day I quit watching YouTube. And then it will get absolute-zero engagement from me.

So bring it. I do not need YouTube, and it needs viewers like me.

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Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Good luck trying to talk about this with any amount of reason.

I’m a pirate, I understand what I’m doing is defrauding the tos of a mega corporation. I UNDERSTAND that and IM DOING IT ON PURPOSE.

But it seems like most of the people here are just going to hurl insults at you and call you a shill because you laid it out as “this cost money and the business needs money to even do it”. This is how “free” services have always worked. They aren’t a fucking charity.

I don’t like ads so I do everything in my power to not see ads. Once they kill ReVanced and they start banned Google accounts, I’ll just stop using YouTube unless I have a specific tutorial need.

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manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Let it die. Creators will go elsewhere. We need to shake up the ancien regime a bit

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- laylawashere44@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Go where? The only companies that can afford to do unlimited video forever for everyone are the likes of Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. Meta tried to steal VOD watchers from YouTube years ago, they failed. Amazon tried to get into VOD via Twitch, they gave up. Microsoft tried to come after Twitch with Mixer, they failed. Moreover, a lot of the things we hate about youtube like poor content moderation, the copyright system, demonetization, etc arent youtubes fault. The broken copyright system is just a result of what copyright law is, it’d probably be worse on a different site since they wouldn’t have the special agreement YouTube has with major copyright holders to serve as an intermediary. Instead of content strikes, or an ad revenue claim, that youtube has the special power to do, you’d just default to DMCA takedowns for everything immediately. And yeah content moderation and demonetization is bad but Youtube never wanted to do this right? They were happily showing ads on ISIS videos, its advertisers that forced them, which is how we ended up with a system that randomly pulls ads from videos if there is a hint of something an ad agency would object too. I mean it’s either this or advertisers don’t advertise at all, which fucks everyone, instead of a few people.
  
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  - manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    If you love watching ads so much go watch them. That’s the same boomer mentality that keeps cable alive to this day. I don’t care, I will never watch ads
    
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    papertowels@lemmy.one ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    So uhhh where will content creators go, you still haven’t answered the question.
    
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  - mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    We got videos before YouTube, it’s fine.
    
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- Polar@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  And are you going to pay to host the petabytes of 4K content? Or are you going to expect other people to pay that when these creators jump ship?
  
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  - Gabu@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    What kind of moron is distributing 4k content when 1080p with high bitrate is already overkill?
    
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    Polar@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    What 💀 1080p looks like garbage on a 4K TV.
    
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  - manapropos@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah I’m not paying for that shit. I’ll let others pick up the cost not even gonna lie
    
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    Polar@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Ok. Just sit on Lemmy and complain, then. Very helpful.
    
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  - shortwavesurfer@monero.town ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Maybe it’s because I am blind and so my point is a little bit different. But personally, I have never understood having much video over about 1080p, especially on a phone and possibly even 720p. Peertube and 720p would work great. Each creator could set up their own instance or pay someone to set it up for them, and if they ever blew up and got seriously big, the amount of people watching their videos would send to their peers and load balance across them so the server wasn’t totally overwhelmed.
    
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MayvisDelacour@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Does that boot taste good or something?

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notintonsfw@lemmynsfw.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Everything has to be free; I won’t pay a dime. If anyone tries to make money (aka any business), they are evil.

Lemmy
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tyrant@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Google would never give up on a project!

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