Exactly! I’m sterilized so I don’t see an issue with dating my daughter.
tartarin@piefed.social 1 month ago
Unless they can reproduce, I don’t see the issue here.
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 month ago
There is a power imbalance when dating your daughter. Just like a teacher is generally not allowed to date their student. So there is an issue with dating your daughter.
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
So… okay if it’s my sister, then?
8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 month ago
From a narrow ethical standpoint, there is no issue I can see?
tartarin@piefed.social 1 month ago
The point is incestuous relationships were forbidden because they lead a higher probability of genetic defects in the offspring. They were also forbidden if they are not consensual like any other sexual relationships.
Clearly dating your daughter isn’t consensual given the imbalance of power at play. That’s also why pedophile relationships are forbidden.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
If you started being together not knowing you were siblings, like here, then no.
bus_factor@lemmy.world 1 month ago
While the medical concerns with incest don’t apply here, the stigma of having sexual relations with a relative usually doesn’t take such technicalities into account.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Why should the biological stigma matter when the only remaining stigma is social?
Trex202@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Homophobia masked as incestphobia (not sure if real word…)
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Power dynamics, access/grooming to family members.
The issue isn’t about reproduction, though neither of those would apply in this scenario where we assume they were estranged.
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Seems like none of those apply here though. These two didn’t even know they were brothers until they were already together romantically.
bus_factor@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’m not sure what biological stigma is supposed to mean. Sexual relations between siblings gives most people the ick regardless of technicalities, and that is a social stigma, the only kind of stigma I’m aware of.
Grass@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I think that’s all shit we are taught. In highschool there was a brother and sister in the grade above me that were notoriously very clingy with each other and their parents didn’t let them take sex ed because that class needed parental sign off and the bible was the only teacher they needed or some stupid shit. Anyway they were seen fucking in the storage room when extra chairs were needed for an event.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 month ago
“Biological stigma” would refer to the effects of having an incestuous child.
“Social stigma” would refer to the sexual relationship between people in a close familial relationship, which is clearly not the case since they had no prior relationship.
Since these men wouldn’t fall under either category, what other stigma is there?
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 1 month ago
misread stigma as smegma
basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
Would be still legal in Germany