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tartarin@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• bus_factor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  While the medical concerns with incest don’t apply here, the stigma of having sexual relations with a relative usually doesn’t take such technicalities into account.

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why should the biological stigma matter when the only remaining stigma is social?

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    • Trex202@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Homophobia masked as incestphobia (not sure if real word…)

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    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Power dynamics, access/grooming to family members.

      The issue isn’t about reproduction, though neither of those would apply in this scenario where we assume they were estranged.

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      • OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Seems like none of those apply here though. These two didn’t even know they were brothers until they were already together romantically.

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    • bus_factor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m not sure what biological stigma is supposed to mean. Sexual relations between siblings gives most people the ick regardless of technicalities, and that is a social stigma, the only kind of stigma I’m aware of.

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      • Grass@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think that’s all shit we are taught. In highschool there was a brother and sister in the grade above me that were notoriously very clingy with each other and their parents didn’t let them take sex ed because that class needed parental sign off and the bible was the only teacher they needed or some stupid shit. Anyway they were seen fucking in the storage room when extra chairs were needed for an event.

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      • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        “Biological stigma” would refer to the effects of having an incestuous child.

        “Social stigma” would refer to the sexual relationship between people in a close familial relationship, which is clearly not the case since they had no prior relationship.

        Since these men wouldn’t fall under either category, what other stigma is there?

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    • finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      misread stigma as smegma

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  • basxto@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Would be still legal in Germany

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• tias@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Exactly! I’m sterilized so I don’t see an issue with dating my daughter.

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  • 8oow3291d@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There is a power imbalance when dating your daughter. Just like a teacher is generally not allowed to date their student. So there is an issue with dating your daughter.

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    • tias@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So… okay if it’s my sister, then?

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      • 8oow3291d@feddit.dk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        From a narrow ethical standpoint, there is no issue I can see?

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      • tartarin@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The point is incestuous relationships were forbidden because they lead a higher probability of genetic defects in the offspring. They were also forbidden if they are not consensual like any other sexual relationships.

        Clearly dating your daughter isn’t consensual given the imbalance of power at play. That’s also why pedophile relationships are forbidden.

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      • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If you started being together not knowing you were siblings, like here, then no.

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