Comment on xkcd #3214: Electric Vehicles
Tja@programming.dev 3 weeks agoVery much similar to my own experience. The blackout is the funniest, because gas stations don’t work in a blackout, while solar panels do (assuming you disconnect them from the grid).
I would add one:
The only somewhat valid use case for “driving 1.000km without a stop” would be several people in the car taking turns on the driver’s seat. While you’d technically need to stop to switch drivers this in itself is way quicker than even a quick charge on paper.
BUT: considering traffic jams, speed limits and such - a 1.000km trip would take around 10+ hours anyway. You’re not going to tell me that you do not even stop to pee or stretch a bit for 10+ hours, do you?
While growing up my family once a year would take a 20 hour car trip to visit extended family for a couple weeks then 20 hours back. Parents would do five hour shifts and get the whole thing done in one go. Shift changes meant refuel, bathroom, that’s it. Other than that there was no stopping unless it was a “the next bump in the road I will 100% shit myself” kind of an emergency
Now personally I’d argue maybe we shouldn’t have been taking road trips in that manner because it’s like putting your body through a meat grinder. But if trips like that are someone’s goal I doubt there are many charging stations in the middle of absolutely nowhere that can fully charge an EV in the time it takes to pee. I’m hoping though maybe a shift to EVs will change the way people approach long road trips to actually force them to take breaks
It takes just one small change …. My family did similar, but those stops were planned for mealtimes. We either did fast food or brought a camping stove, but always ate outside the car. Kids were encouraged to “run down to the end of that path with the dog”. Anyhow, the presence of even a fast food meal meant that there would have been plenty of time to charge.
My father in-law uses that added argument all the time. Who the hell needs to drive for 10 hours straight without taking a 30 minute break.
It’s the same mentality as V8 pickup buyers. But what if I need to tow my yacht one day? My truck was pretty damned convenient that day in 2017 when I had to move my brother-in-law’s sofa!
What ICE car goes 1000km without filling up?
A bunch of German diesels have 70L+ tanks and can comfortably cruise under 7L/100km at highway speeds. Passat, Audi A4, A6, and A8, BMW 3, 5 and 7 series, Mercedes C, E and S class.
So the trick is just burn more fuel!
My hybrid is running at 4.8-5 L/100.
That is under 7L too…
A few diesels in theory if you drive economically
maybe on the internet. and we’ll just ignore all the pollutants Diesels spew.
gas stations don’t work in a blackout,
…do US statioms not have their own generators?
How are you going to fill those generators if the pump has no power?
Checkmate atheists
No idea about the US, but not in Europe. It was a major problem with the last blackout in Spain and Portugal.
I am asking because I worked in gas station in Poland and we had backup generator. xD
Nope. Even some US hospitals don’t have backup generators.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Oh, yeah! I forgot that one!
When you ask them how many times they found themselves with a thermic car doing 1000km without stopping they usually tell you: never, but what if I had to?
Bitch, if you need to do 1000km without stopping, you should be taking a train or a plane. Driving 10-12 hours without a single stop is bad and dangerous.
jqubed@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This was something I realized when we drive to my wife’s parents. It’s 2,000 km each way from our house in the US to where they are in rural Quebec, Canada and we usually drive it twice a year. The charging times sound long, but even with our petrol car most of our stops end up being between 15 to 30 minutes anyways between fueling the car, taking the dog to grass, taking turns going to the toilet so the dog isn’t alone in the car, getting food and giving me a chance to eat so I’m not trying to drive and eat at the same time.
I think the real challenge of electric range anxiety is that it still takes planning, at least in some parts of the US. There are areas on our route where it might be 100 kilometers to the next fast charger, and there’s no guarantee that all of them will be working or compatible with a car’s fastest charging speeds. We don’t really have to think about where we’ll get gasoline; there’s pretty much always a station, often several, within the next few miles. Usually if we’re waiting to stop for fuel it’s because we’re looking for the best price, looking for a place that might have decent toilets, and/or might have an appealing food option along with the gasoline. That’s all manageable in electric but might need some advanced planning, and many American drivers aren’t used to doing that kind of route planning in advance anymore.
How many cars in Europe can drive 1,000 km without stopping anyways? The only ones I can think of offhand are large American pickup trucks intended for towing large trailers long distances. I wouldn’t expect to see them in Europe.
bufalo1973@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Any diesel can drive more than 1000 km with a full deposit. But laws forbid in some countries to drive more than 2 hours or 300 km without stopping.
jqubed@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I remember similar guidelines being taught when I was in driver’s ed in the US, but I don’t know if there were strict laws around it. If there are laws I would guess it is a state-by-state thing.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Soem countries safety inspect vehicles annually.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
What if a comet was headed for your town and it has a radius of 500KM? Check and mate, libtard!
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Americans do this on July 4 weekend, the highways are carnage.