Comment on Dbzero has Defederated from Feddit.org following its Governance post about the later's Zionist Bar Problem

• 7101334@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  Hamas is a righteous freedom-fighter group resisting their occupiers as is their right under the internationally-recognized Right of Resistance and closely-related Right of Self Determination.

  It is unfortunate that harm came to any civilians, of course, but that’s due to the colonial and genocidal actions of the illegitimate Zionazi state. There’s also the fact that most Israeli adults have served in the IOF in some capacity. That decision, also by the illegitimate Zionazi government, means nearly all Israeli civilians are directly complicit in genocide.

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• brognak@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Saying Hamas is antisemitic is sure fire sign of being a Zionist.

  Palestinians are a semitic people.

  If you want to saw that Hamas hates Jews, well, when your entire life has been being bombed by planes with stars of David on them, while jackbooted thugs with stars of David on their shoulder kick in your door to kidnap your family members in the night, and settlers with star of David necklaces show up and claim your home and land by divine right, I can start to see where you develop feelings toward the people who carry the same sign.

  Maybe, just maybe, if Israel wanted the world to be a safer place for Jews they would stop associating a genocide with Judaisim as they are so fucking desperate to do.

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  • 7101334@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Maybe, just maybe, if Israel wanted the world to be a safer place for Jews they would stop associating a genocide with Judaisim

    You probably already know this, but Israel wants the world to be a more dangerous place for Jews to justify Israel’s illegitimate existence and aggression. That’s why they conducted terrorist attacks against Ethiopian Jews, to convince them that they needed to move to Israel as it’s the only safe place for them… where they’re then met by deep-rooted racism.

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• umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  notice how you worry about how palestinians defending themselves, but not about the millions of them killed and starved.

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• Count042@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Spoken like someone that condemned the ANC as terrorists in the 80’s.

  “Sure, apartheid is wrong, bit the people suffering it and fighting it are the worst” <— you.

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• Cowbee@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What’s wrong with the term “leftist organization?” Educate, agitate, organize is the common saying, organizing is the fundamental task of leftists.

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• seeking_perhaps@mander.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hemming and hawing over genocide is disgusting.

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  • LeninWeave@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Seriously, imagine typing “there is often only ‘anti genocide and pro genocide’ in online discussions” and thinking “yes, I will post this and look like a very good and moral person”. Yes, if you’re not against genocide you’re for genocide. Yes, if you think supporting the resistance to genocide is antisemitic, you are a genocidal zionist. This type of “nuanced” “anti-zionism” (liberal zionism) is also widespread on feddit.org.

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    • hector@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      By fucking german law at that. And they enforce it too. Never again, as defined by nihlists with no soul serving the plutocracy while the far right takes their country from them and fixes elections while they are busy surrendering their people to tech.

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      • LeninWeave@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        One of them was extremely offended in another thread when I replied to them with “I was just following orders”. hahaha

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• LeninWeave@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The German left, at least the loud one, is public ally dividing between this topic. On demonstration you see a lot of people openly supporting Hamas, wearing the red triangle etc. For me it is only natural to fight this form of anti semitism. That makes you a “Zionist” on Lemmy, as there is often only “anti genocide and pro genocide” in online discussions. But the world is very complex and there is a large continuum between Islamic and Jewish ethno state philosophy.

  This is all nonsense and you are indeed a zionist. Thank you for making it clear to everyone.

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• IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It does not make you a Zionist on Lemmy. You are a Zionist.

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  • gigachad@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Opposing Hamas makes you a Zionist”, can you confirm that statement?

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    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You said supporting Hamas is antisemitic. Why are you crawling back to the word Zionism now?

      Also yes, anyone who does not support resistance against genocide, supports genocide. This is a given.

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      • gigachad@piefed.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Me

        […] people openly supporting Hamas, wearing the red triangle etc. For me it is only natural to fight this form of anti semitism. That makes you a “Zionist” on Lemmy […]

        You

        It does not make you a Zionist on Lemmy. You are a Zionist in real life.

        Again you

        You said supporting Hamas is antisemitic. Why are you crawling back to the word Zionism now?

        Me
        ???

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    • BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You believe it is evil to resist Isreals imperialism. That’s Zionism

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    • LeninWeave@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes, opposing the main resistance to zionism makes you a zionist. Glad we all understand each other.

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• Twongo@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  ask an anti german what they think of muslims in the middle east :) it’ll be the most misanthropic thing you heard all day. anti germans are disgusting zionists and need to be shunned from leftist places. they are pro-genocide and there is no nuance to it. they are not part of the left, just delusional cosplayers

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• BrainInABox@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “Is genocide bad? Who can say, it’s just so complex!”

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• JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Don’t be discouraged. Personally I don’t have the energy any more to endure the abuse of the mob (these “leftist” ignoramuses whose obsession with “Zionism” leads them to support literal fascism) but it’s important that somebody makes the points you’re making.

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• Hell_nah_brother@thelemmy.club ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You should have been bullied more in school.

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