I mean “leftist organization” is a weird term and I would more speak of currents. And there is definitely the Anrideutsche or Anti-Germans.
The German left, at least the loud one, is public ally dividing between this topic. On demonstration you see a lot of people openly supporting Hamas, wearing the red triangle etc. For me it is only natural to fight this form of anti semitism. That makes you a “Zionist” on Lemmy, as there is often only “anti genocide and pro genocide” in online discussion. But the world is very complex and there is a large continuum between Islamic and Jewish ethno state philosophy.
My favorite part is pointing out that most israelis are not white westerners, but from other middle eastern countries who were fleeing persecution in those countries and are more arab than western in terms of ethnicity and history.
But that doesn’t fit the nice narrative that all Israelis are white colonlizer/invaders from europe or something. Literally never had it acknowledged once, just denied and told that it is zionist propaganda.
Saying Hamas is antisemitic is sure fire sign of being a Zionist.
Palestinians are a semitic people.
If you want to saw that Hamas hates Jews, well, when your entire life has been being bombed by planes with stars of David on them, while jackbooted thugs with stars of David on their shoulder kick in your door to kidnap your family members in the night, and settlers with star of David necklaces show up and claim your home and land by divine right, I can start to see where you develop feelings toward the people who carry the same sign.
Maybe, just maybe, if Israel wanted the world to be a safer place for Jews they would stop associating a genocide with Judaisim as they are so fucking desperate to do.
Maybe, just maybe, if Israel wanted the world to be a safer place for Jews they would stop associating a genocide with Judaisim
You probably already know this, but Israel wants the world to be a more dangerous place for Jews to justify Israel’s illegitimate existence and aggression. That’s why they conducted terrorist attacks against Ethiopian Jews, to convince them that they needed to move to Israel as it’s the only safe place for them… where they’re then met by deep-rooted racism.
Seriously, imagine typing “there is often only ‘anti genocide and pro genocide’ in online discussions” and thinking “yes, I will post this and look like a very good and moral person”. Yes, if you’re not against genocide you’re for genocide. Yes, if you think supporting the resistance to genocide is antisemitic, you are a genocidal zionist. This type of “nuanced” “anti-zionism” (liberal zionism) is also widespread on feddit.org.
By fucking german law at that. And they enforce it too. Never again, as defined by nihlists with no soul serving the plutocracy while the far right takes their country from them and fixes elections while they are busy surrendering their people to tech.
The German left, at least the loud one, is public ally dividing between this topic. On demonstration you see a lot of people openly supporting Hamas, wearing the red triangle etc. For me it is only natural to fight this form of anti semitism. That makes you a “Zionist” on Lemmy, as there is often only “anti genocide and pro genocide” in online discussions. But the world is very complex and there is a large continuum between Islamic and Jewish ethno state philosophy.
This is all nonsense and you are indeed a zionist. Thank you for making it clear to everyone.
ask an anti german what they think of muslims in the middle east :) it’ll be the most misanthropic thing you heard all day.
anti germans are disgusting zionists and need to be shunned from leftist places. they are pro-genocide and there is no nuance to it. they are not part of the left, just delusional cosplayers
Don’t be discouraged. Personally I don’t have the energy any more to endure the abuse of the mob (these “leftist” ignoramuses whose obsession with “Zionism” leads them to support literal fascism) but it’s important that somebody makes the points you’re making.
gigachad@piefed.social 13 hours ago
I mean “leftist organization” is a weird term and I would more speak of currents. And there is definitely the Anrideutsche or Anti-Germans.
The German left, at least the loud one, is public ally dividing between this topic. On demonstration you see a lot of people openly supporting Hamas, wearing the red triangle etc. For me it is only natural to fight this form of anti semitism. That makes you a “Zionist” on Lemmy, as there is often only “anti genocide and pro genocide” in online discussion. But the world is very complex and there is a large continuum between Islamic and Jewish ethno state philosophy.
TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 27 minutes ago
My favorite part is pointing out that most israelis are not white westerners, but from other middle eastern countries who were fleeing persecution in those countries and are more arab than western in terms of ethnicity and history.
But that doesn’t fit the nice narrative that all Israelis are white colonlizer/invaders from europe or something. Literally never had it acknowledged once, just denied and told that it is zionist propaganda.
brognak@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
Saying Hamas is antisemitic is sure fire sign of being a Zionist.
Palestinians are a semitic people.
If you want to saw that Hamas hates Jews, well, when your entire life has been being bombed by planes with stars of David on them, while jackbooted thugs with stars of David on their shoulder kick in your door to kidnap your family members in the night, and settlers with star of David necklaces show up and claim your home and land by divine right, I can start to see where you develop feelings toward the people who carry the same sign.
Maybe, just maybe, if Israel wanted the world to be a safer place for Jews they would stop associating a genocide with Judaisim as they are so fucking desperate to do.
7101334@lemmy.world 2 hours ago
You probably already know this, but Israel wants the world to be a more dangerous place for Jews to justify Israel’s illegitimate existence and aggression. That’s why they conducted terrorist attacks against Ethiopian Jews, to convince them that they needed to move to Israel as it’s the only safe place for them… where they’re then met by deep-rooted racism.
Count042@lemmy.ml 4 hours ago
Spoken like someone that condemned the ANC as terrorists in the 80’s.
“Sure, apartheid is wrong, bit the people suffering it and fighting it are the worst” <— you.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
notice how you worry about how palestinians defending themselves, but not about the millions of them killed and starved.
seeking_perhaps@mander.xyz 13 hours ago
Hemming and hawing over genocide is disgusting.
LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 13 hours ago
Seriously, imagine typing “there is often only ‘anti genocide and pro genocide’ in online discussions” and thinking “yes, I will post this and look like a very good and moral person”. Yes, if you’re not against genocide you’re for genocide. Yes, if you think supporting the resistance to genocide is antisemitic, you are a genocidal zionist. This type of “nuanced” “anti-zionism” (liberal zionism) is also widespread on feddit.org.
hector@lemmy.today 11 hours ago
By fucking german law at that. And they enforce it too. Never again, as defined by nihlists with no soul serving the plutocracy while the far right takes their country from them and fixes elections while they are busy surrendering their people to tech.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 hours ago
What’s wrong with the term “leftist organization?” Educate, agitate, organize is the common saying, organizing is the fundamental task of leftists.
LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 13 hours ago
This is all nonsense and you are indeed a zionist. Thank you for making it clear to everyone.
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
It does not make you a Zionist on Lemmy. You are a Zionist.
gigachad@piefed.social 12 hours ago
“Opposing Hamas makes you a Zionist”, can you confirm that statement?
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
You said supporting Hamas is antisemitic. Why are you crawling back to the word Zionism now?
Also yes, anyone who does not support resistance against genocide, supports genocide. This is a given.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
You believe it is evil to resist Isreals imperialism. That’s Zionism
LeninWeave@lemmy.ml 12 hours ago
Yes, opposing the main resistance to zionism makes you a zionist. Glad we all understand each other.
Twongo@lemmy.ml 12 hours ago
ask an anti german what they think of muslims in the middle east :) it’ll be the most misanthropic thing you heard all day. anti germans are disgusting zionists and need to be shunned from leftist places. they are pro-genocide and there is no nuance to it. they are not part of the left, just delusional cosplayers
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 10 hours ago
“Is genocide bad? Who can say, it’s just so complex!”
JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Don’t be discouraged. Personally I don’t have the energy any more to endure the abuse of the mob (these “leftist” ignoramuses whose obsession with “Zionism” leads them to support literal fascism) but it’s important that somebody makes the points you’re making.
Hell_nah_brother@thelemmy.club 10 hours ago
You should have been bullied more in school.