Comment on This whistle fights fascists | How thousands of 3D-printed whistles are derailing ICE.

knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  a whistle won’t stop these goons from harming you.

  No it will not, but it will alert everyone around you to ICEs presence so they can have an opportunity to be somewhat prepared.

  You’ll at least give your neighbours a chance to put some pants on, hide, barricade, or even arm themselves; before ICE tries to kick in their door.

  It also calls others to your aid; quickly forming mob that out numbers ICE, forcing them to focus on crowd control instead of targeted kidnapping.

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  • ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And when lots of people are around, you have lots of cameras. Imagine how different things would be if we didn’t have video from Minnesota.

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• silence7@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Intentional deescalation does more right now than having the people closest to ICE or Border Patrol agents carrying weapons.

  The standard for now is that responders with guns stay back to deter massacres.

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• knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You both make good points, but prevention is better than de-escalation or alerting. Being known as protected is ala preventative measure.

  Of course alarms/monitoring and response (de-escalation) are very important. But stopping it before it starts should get attention as well.

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  • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Not everyone can afford big guns and heavy armor; nor have the training/licensing required to cary/display them.

    3D printed whistles are a cheap and easy aid. Every bit of resistance helps.

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    • FauxLiving@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      nor have the training/licensing required to cary/display them.

      Exactly.

      Recommending that random untrained people go around armed is a recipe for disaster (see: ICE’s random untrained people going around armed). It’s irresponsible, at best.

      I read these people as if they’re calling for violence but trying to skirt the line in a way that doesn’t get them banned.

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• aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  What is bpp?

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  • chaogomu@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’ll assume it’s the Black Panther Party.

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  • thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    black panthers

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• zensanto@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If you really want to fight back, learn from the Mexican cartels and Islamic insurgencies.

  We have data on what works.

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• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Ironic. If you want to reduce crime, invite the Black Panthers to keep the ICE Apes away.

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  • Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I mean, the Black Panthers started because people realized that peaceful unarmed protests would be violently busted, but peaceful heavily armed protests were politely watched from across the street.

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    • SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Power only respects power. Always has been that way.

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