Comment on 2 North American 4 you has been created

ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• neo2478@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Literary all of those dishes have origins outside of the US lol

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  • PapaStevesy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    So does all human society, this is a stupid argument.

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    • okmko@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I find it fascinating that almost half of the world has their own dumpling (ie. a small ball of a cheap source of protein and fat held together by a wrapping of flour dough; cooked by boiling in water).

      I bet if you they would all dispute the origin of that food item.

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    • neo2478@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      My point is that US people tend to claim ownership to a lot of things that were not invented there. I’m all for sharing culture and food and transforming them to something new, but don’t claim they are your invention.

      Like as american as apple pie is an expression for a dish from Germany and the Netherlands.

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      • PapaStevesy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        My point is that nationalism is poisoning society and destroying the ecosystem, and this discussion isn’t helping.

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      • DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Nah, I as an naturalized American citizen I do not want stuff I create to be called “Chinese”, its xenophobic. I mean, you can say “Chinese-American” to refer to me but not “Chinese”. Cuz why is a white US Citizen creating stuff labeled as “American” while stuff I make is not “American”? Double standards.

        If I come up with a new food receipe, its American food. If I make a painting, that’s made by an American artist. If I publish a book, that’s written by an American writer. Don’t fucking try to “other” me.

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      • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        We invented the chocolate chip cookie, man. That pretty much means we won. Lol

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      • limelight79@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Meanwhile, German Chocolate Cake has nothing to do with Germany!

        It was created by a guy with the last name of German…

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  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You’re literally wrong. A hamburger as a sandwich is a US creation. So is gumbo. Literally do a 2 minute search about it before “thinking” you know what you’re talking about. Lol

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• Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Dude, Hamburgers are literally named after the non-US city they originally came from…
  But I have to admit that the refinement to its delicious present day form is an American achievement!

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  • Cort@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s a Hamburg steak. Not a hamburger, since there’s no bun

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  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Na, buddy. You’re wrong. The Hamburg thing is just about a mashed up piece of meat. Not the hamburger. Putting the meat in the bun to make a sandwich is 100% US like 125 years ago.

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    • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s quite disputed.
      One of the more likely theories states that the bun idea together with the ground meat steak originated in Hamburg, where it was a variant of the common “Rundstück warm”, which has been around since 200 years or so.

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      • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It’s less disputed than most food origins. I looked up your rundstuck warm food. Dunno why you’re trying to make that argument, because because that sure looks nothing like a hamburger, nor does it get eaten like one. That it didn’t use ground beef aside, it being covered in gravy is a dead giveaway.

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  • Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The original hamburger was more like a meatloaf. It was a hamburg steak, meant to be eaten with a fork and knife just like a modern meatloaf. The modern hamburger is 100% an American invention, because America was the place that first turned it into a sandwich.

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• Fredselfish@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Hamburger were invited in Athens Texas. Just go ask that city they advertise that it was a man from that town at the World Fair in the 1930’s.

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• GladiusB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I have to think of a lot of fish dishes too. Since we only have them here. I don’t think Walleye is from anywhere else. Maybe I’m wrong.

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  • PapaStevesy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Walleye isn’t a preparation, it’s an animal.

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    • GladiusB@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Preparing pineapple or mango isn’t native either and included in these comparisons.

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      • PapaStevesy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I didn’t say anything about nativeness. Also seems like you forgot to finish your sentence, I’m really not sure what you are trying to say here.

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