Comment on How to Actually Clean Install Windows 11

TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• eee@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “The only downside is that the Windows Store appears not to work out of the box.”

  This is a feature, not a bug.

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  • naticus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can be a major deal breaker though for anyone using GamePass.

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    • deweydecibel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you’re gonna buy into the Microsoft ecosystem with a subscription service and a Microsoft Account, you’ll be stuck with their trash. Should maybe consider what else might “break Gamepass” in the future (purely by accident of course).

      Like how if you don’t want OneDrive, whoops, now your Office documents can’t autosave. Better put OneDrive back like a good consumer and here’s some ads about increasing storage, you’re welcome.

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    • Railcar8095@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And WSL.

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      • glad_cat@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t have the Store at work and I still installed WSL2 (from the command line IIRC).

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    • vividspecter@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Also Windows MR, potentially.

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• cs127@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  that is absolutely not a downside

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  • bastion@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    GamePass.

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    • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Idgaf

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      • bastion@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Neither do I, but it’s obviously going to be a downside for some people.

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• Engywuck@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Article’s author didn’t fully catch the meaning of “downside”.

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• qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m of the opinion that MS will eventually get this right, but it won’t be called Windows 11 by the time it does. The redesign, efforts into command-line and WSL, they are moving in a positive direction, but the ads, bloat, spyware, needs to go. If they can release Win12 or whatever its called with the simplicity of Win11, have the features of Win10 (and finally put a nail in the old interfaces from XP and before), they could have another solid performer like Windows 7.

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  • deweydecibel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    they are moving in a positive direction, but the ads, bloat, spyware, needs to go

    They’re going nowhere. They’re entrenched, they own most of the business world, they will never face serious kickback for their design decisions.

    This isn’t ever going to change. The only thing they’ll do is give tools to Enterprise editions for businesses to control the instal, and only via Azure, at a price point far too high for the average user. Anything less than Enterprise will be locked down and monetized to hell and back.

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    • rastilin@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They're not offsetting anything, they still charge money for the boxed copy sold in stores. This is pure profit for them.

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    • WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t know why gen z is being portrayed as tech illiterate everywhere on lemmy. We grew up with technology and half of us are adults already

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      • PawjamaParty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Growing up with technology doesn’t automatically grant you knowledge of it. Kids that grow up with iPads are capable of using iPads, but sit them in front of a computer and they’ll be lost. Being technically literate is more than just being able to install an app from the app store.

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    • sadreality@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah windows 11 is laying ground work for all of this.

      It seems like they have decided that plebs and OEMs paying licenses was not a good business model.

      Really makes you wonder where the entire business world is heading. It seems every company starting to prefer this route.

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    • EngineerGaming@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not until Gen Z gets old enough and numerous enough to start pushing workplaces to adopt Apple, and that’s an even worse direction.

      I am a bit weirded out by such an association. Around me, I do see a few people with Apple tech, but they’re a minority. How would people that are able to afford these products be numerous enough to matter?

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    • whynotzoidberg@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Not until Gen Z gets old enough and numerous enough to start pushing workplaces to adopt Apple, and that’s an even worse direction.

      Elder millennial here. This was said of us, too. I remember main framers sometimes noting this direction and poking fun.

      Yet here I am and the world keeps chugging along in similar ways.

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  • GigglyBobble@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    the ads, bloat, spyware, needs to go

    They just introduced them. What makes you think this isn't an integral part of the future of Windows?

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  • sadreality@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Win13 gonna spy even harder tho

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    • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Win12 isn’t gonna run locally. OS as a service.

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      • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Window Sun Ray edition…

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  • rastilin@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think they'll go even harder, making Windows only run stuff purchased through the Windows Store so they can completely lock in the market.

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    • maccentric@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      For “security“

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      • rastilin@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Absolutely. The security argument is used so often I'm surprised people aren't more cynical about it.

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      • Railcar8095@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Financial security no doubt

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    • qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They already have a Windows “S” mode or whatever it’s called that does this. People will reject it, even casual users. I had one person ask me to turn off this mode to their kid could play Roblox. They just want to run apps, they don’t care how they work.

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  • fiah@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    (and finally put a nail in the old interfaces from XP and before)

    that’s probably not going to happen because it will break some programs

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    • qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Honestly, there are some apps out there they need complete overhauls or to be completely replaced.

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• Toribor@corndog.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Now that I can get the Windows Terminal and WSL without the Microsoft Store it seems like this is yet another bonus.

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• Boldizzle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It also talks about just setting your region again after the install to get the windows store working again. Most of the other bloat still stays away though.

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