Comment on Apple to Soon Take Up to 30% Cut From All Patreon Creators in iOS App

FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• lost_faith@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Last time this came up Patreon simply allowed the creators to charge the commission directly on top of the price for non apple users, or eat the 30% loss. So everyone not using iOS would pay, say, $5/month, iOS users would pay $5+30%. Hope they retain that option.

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  • applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Your math is wrong. If you want the creator to still get $5 with apple stealing 30% you would need to pay ~43% extra.

    $5/0.7 = $7.14

    1/0.7 = 1.42857

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    • lost_faith@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t remember the math, there was a button to charge apple users more so we got what we were supposed to

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  • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s actually a good solution

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    • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Is it? Previously this was considered tips

      Now it’s 30% for what? Running a payment gateway and hiding an unsubscribe button deep in the App Store UI.

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    • lost_faith@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, I remember cause my Patreon account asked me what I wanted to do about apple trying to steal my money

      p.s. I never push Patreon so have no subs lol

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  • ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ya a few apps already do this. YouTube premium does for sure and I have heard a few others doing so.

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• artyom@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s against App Store rules to inform your customers they’re being fucked by Apple in any way. If you do, they’ll take it down.

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  • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world ⁨54⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    Ok…and?

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨52⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      So…they probably don’t want their app delisted?

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  • eager_eagle@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Isn’t it against the law in many places to charge customers without providing a breakdown of what they’re being charged with?

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• lando55@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I was actually curious how this currently works as I’ve never used the Patreon app, so thanks for that. I’m sure it’s a nice convenience to be able to transact through the app, but not 30% passive Apple income levels of nice. It’s too bad they are stuck in their flat-rate commission model, because alienating third-party developers and businesses in this manner will kill their ecosystem.

  Can any current creators on Patreon provide some insight into how the revenue streams break down between the iOS/Android app platforms versus the website? What impact do you foresee if instead of a payment option in the app it simply directs you to the website?

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