Comment on Sony AI patent will see PlayStation games play themselves when players are stuck
qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
So… What’s the point of playing then?
Games are expected to pose some sort of challenge, of difficulty, to keep the player interested. Even if it boils down to pure frustration at some point, making some turn from it, even learning how to deal with it is useful. Games are some of the oldest teaching tools we stumbled upon.
This another move on human and individual agenda, on learning how to exist, to an extent.
This isn’t funny.
No, that is how you expect to play a game.
Not everyone plays games the same as you or even for the same reason.
If I get frustrated with a game, because I have to repeat the same part over and over, I just quit and go play a different game. Doing the same thing is boring. And life is already frustrating enough, I play games to relax and enjoy myself.
I am not on a quest to prove you wrong over me being right.
Do as you will, it is your life.
But it is through learning from small, inconsequential things like games, of any kind, to deal with controversial or unpleaseant feelings that many kids acquire coping mechanisms to handle real life situations. Situations with no cheat code, dificulty setting or pay-to-win mechanisms.
Wanting an escape, a tension release valve is fine. Just pick the right one.
People play games for different reasons. A lot of people play games to relax, and challenge themselves doing serious stuff. It’s literally fine for things like cheats to exist (and there’s no such thing as cheating for singleplayer games anyway). If someone wants to make their singleplayer game easier, or to skip a particularly hard section, or whatever, it doesn’t affect anyone else in any way, so let them.
You get it. The people I know who refuse to learn small things to get ahead are always the ones who have bad coping mechanisms.
Then don’t play dark souls. It’s inherently a frustrating game series, on purpose. I like to get gud and if some asshole puts AI into the game that takes over when I am stuck for a while I’d be upset. But tbh I wouldn’t even buy the game that has this in it. I’m not interested in training LLMs with my gaming skllls.
Even if it boils down to pure frustration at some point
…the point where many people simply give up and refund? Maybe they’re trying to avoid something like that
That’s really funny. It never stops to amaze me how convenience replaced well considered options.
You spend the money, you get to keep it. The logic of guaranteed satisfaction is non-sense. Unless it is defective, what other reason is valid to return anything?
Some refunded games are indeed defective. Others are refunded because of false advertising. There are people that abuse the system, of course, but I still see the possibility of refunding as pro-consumer.
Cheat codes and difficulty settings have existed for forever. Dynamic difficulty is common, and used to great success in beloved games like left 4 dead. Just a different option to get past the part you’re stuck in is really nothing bad.
Cheat codes are one thing. You can abuse those to even smoth your learning curve to later beat the game clean.
The same logic can be used for difficulty settings: you play it, in harder and harder settings, to have a new/added challenge.
Dynamic difficulty I’m unaware of what it migh actually be buy I risk I have an idea.
The game playing itself? Sounds like a movie.
But I hope you are right.
Why would you play the same game again just because you used a cheat code?
You already know the story. Time for something else.
That is like claiming you have to rewatch an entire movie because you missed a scene while going to the bathroom.
That’s quite the take. You seem to be the exact audience for this up and coming “feature”. Why play a game when you can just watch AI play it? TONS of people replay games and rewatch movies ALL THE TIME.
It’s more than obvious we are completely opposite individuals.
Yes, I would - and have - replayed a game after using cheats. It’s not about knowing the game; it’s about knowing if I can actually beat the game without resorting to cheats.
And, yes, I will rewatch an entire movie if I’ve missed a scene for any reason and the movie was somehow catching my interest. Not on that moment but I will rewatch it again when I have the opportunity and see how much the one scene I missed adds or not to the entire movie.
The same logic can be used for difficulty settings: you play it, in harder and harder settings, to have a new/added challenge.
I can absolutely guarantee that 99.9% of players do not ever replay a game they’ve beaten. You’re generalizing your own values and goals and they’re absolutely not as common as you think they are
You’re generalizing your own values and goals and they’re absolutely not as common as you think they are
Isn’t that what we are all doing, while engaging in this discussion? Better yet, isn’t Sony doing that exact same thing by thinking that putting an AI autoplay function into the games is what all players want or at least a gross majority?
Nobody is debating based on the sharing and comparising of proof and facts here; we are all sharing our personal view on the subject.
Dynamic difficulty is the game adjusting the difficulty based on how well you’re doing, e.g. in the mentioned l4d (or maybe it was only l4d2 idk) if you have more health and healing, it will spawn more/harder enemies, and vice versa.
It’s sometimes also used in other ways, e.g. boss fights get easier after failing them a bunch, which I really don’t like because I want to decide myself whether I want to make the game easier. Though roguelite progression systems like in hades in effect do a similar thing, but the player is actually aware of it (though this is why I don’t really like roguelites).
Mainly I think whether this is a fine feature or shit will just depend on the ability to choose if you want the AI to beat the boss for you or not.
tino@lemmy.world 2 days ago
it’s not about playing, it’s about paying. The sooner you finish the game, the sooner you buy another one.
yakko@feddit.uk 2 days ago
Exactly, I don’t play my games to finish them. I gnaw on them for hundreds of hours like a dog with a dinosaur bone. I’m the bane of the game industry and proud of it.
qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
Games are already too expensive and it has been made known. That is a sure way to make people abandon platforms.