Most of the foods you eat are GMOs and have been for centuries
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ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 3 months ago
IMO: GMOs are sus. Fuck the rest though.
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 months ago
selective breeding is not not the same as GMO
Tilgare@lemmy.world 3 months ago
By a variety of definitions around the world, yes it is. At least until farmers lobbied to redefine it because they didn’t want to be associated with GMO’s: (emphasis mine)
The definition of a genetically modified organism (GMO) is not clear and varies widely between countries, international bodies, and other communities. At its broadest, the definition of a GMO can include anything that has had its genes altered, including by nature. Taking a less broad view, it can encompass every organism that has had its genes altered by humans, which would include all crops and livestock. In 1993, the Encyclopedia Britannica defined genetic engineering as “any of a wide range of techniques … among them artificial insemination, in vitro fertilization (e.g., ‘test-tube’ babies), sperm banks, cloning, and gene manipulation.” The European Union (EU) included a similarly broad definition in early reviews, specifically mentioning GMOs being produced by “selective breeding and other means of artificial selection” These definitions were promptly adjusted with a number of exceptions added as the result of pressure from scientific and farming communities, as well as developments in science. The EU definition later excluded traditional breeding, in vitro fertilization, induction of polyploidy, mutation breeding, and cell fusion techniques that do not use recombinant nucleic acids or a genetically modified organism in the process.
There is no doubt in my mind that we are genetically modifying a plant when we are selective breeding it for specific genes. The fact that the mutation occurred naturally doesn’t change the the fact that there was human intervention.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 months ago
technically you are right, but we all know that’s not what we mean by GMO.
It is about much more invasive agrotech creating things that would never occur in nature.
roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
The problem with GMOs isn’t the GMOs themselves, it’s why they’ve been GM’d. If they’ve been modified to be “roundup resistant” so they can dump a truckload of glyphosate on them, or something similar to that, that might be a problem.
If I’m buying fresh produce it’s not a problem, I can can make double sure to wash it properly. But if it’s processed food, I definitely do not trust food manufacturers to get all that shit off the vegetables.
Looking for GMO free canned or frozen vegetables is, in my opinion, a good idea. But a fresh cucumber just wash it.
1984@lemmy.today 3 months ago
The vaccines have side effects that destroy lives, and its almost impossible to prove that their deceases come from the vaccines. But Im not going to take the chance to be one of these people.
newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
If this person takes the risks of sickness and its life destroying consequences over the risks of vaccination, they’re an idiot.
www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0264410X25011399 …org.nz/…/comparison-of-possible-disease-complica…
Rbnsft@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The Chance for a serious side effect is lower vs the permanent damage you could get from covid.
mack123@lemmy.world 3 months ago
It is purely a numbers game. Risk vs Risk. Any meal you eat has the possibility of you ending up in hospital. This happened to me, developing a sudden allergy to food I ate before with no problems. It does not stop me eating though 😉
Allergic reaction is your greatest risk with a vaccine. And even there you will the chances slim for such a reaction. We simply take that risk for the vaccine in question, take its effectiveness into account and compare that to the risks of getting the decease in question.
I would not wish long covid on my worst enemy. The never ending brain fog, the tiredness that simply does not go away, the lack of taste for food. It really sucks the joy out of living. So if a vaccine can prevent that, and help shield those around you, that you may infect, I think the risk of side effects are more than justified and worth taking.
themaninblack@lemmy.world 3 months ago
The propagation of these ideas will lead to the maiming and death of children
the_strange@feddit.org 3 months ago
You’re one of the people the meme is talking about.
MrShankles@reddthat.com 3 months ago
Sticking to your opinion without openness to changing them (especially due to fear)… that’s how you become inflexible and risk breaking something (or something breaking you)
TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You question vaccines and yet you probably don’t have any problem asking for antibiotic when you get flu, even though antibiotics don’t work on viruses and only kills the healthy bacteria in your gut. Or, taking painkillers for headaches, even though one of its side effects for constant use is eventual hearing loss.
You question vaccines as if they are all the same, but don’t question other medicinal products that are made in the exact same process as vaccines. And all medicines have some side effects nonetheless. Heck, almost anything you consume has side effects. As another person mentioned, we take medicines and they are approved because the benefits outweigh the risks. They are tested first for crying out loud.
allcretansareliars@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
GM is just a technology, which can be put to many uses, and there are many methods. All pasta wheats, for example, are derived from radiation mutants.
newaccountwhodis@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
The risk isn’t derived from the technology but how it is used. The proprietary technology is used to prevent farmers from creating their own seed (including using copy right laws) while increasing their dependency on matching pesticides. Industrial agriculture is not sustainable - insect populations are dwindling because every square foot of landscape is sprayed with poison. GMO is used to further industrialize agriculture, e.g. by making crops resistant to poison, which in turn can (and will) be used more liberally.
Gladaed@feddit.org 3 months ago
Nature does evolve quickly when posed with harsh conditions. Roundup and other poisons used agriculture make the targeted pests resistant quickly.
Some GM features can be fine, but there are no cheats in real life. Constructing an environment that makes resistance and strength the viable strategy for pests will not work. Harmony is the only sustainable choice.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 months ago
are you seriously defending Roundup?
Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com 3 months ago
It seems they are saying it’s ineffective