Comment on I've never been in a situation where me having a gun would have made things bettter.

db2@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• miked@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Please explain.

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  • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Some of us have been victims and may have a different opinion.

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    • teft@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Also some of us have been to war or grew up in the deep woods where having a gun can save your life.

      I guess technically that’s being a victim too. Just that the perpetrator is more likely to be a bear than a person.

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      • mitchty@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yep being 20 feet away from a bobcat will probably make you reassert things. Also having a handgun pointed at you as well. And hearing a ricochet of a bullet right in front of you.

        I’m not saying a gun helps in all those situations but it definitely changes your available options.

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      • rayyy@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        In most cases just the noise from a gun will be enough but a rabid raccoon might need dispatched. Also, some of are too old,or fat, to run from an animal.

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    • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And some of you may be gun nuts who upvote any plausible argument for gun ownership, even in the face of overwhelming objective evidence that it makes societies vastly unsafe.

      Here’s the thing about guns and victimhood, access to guns causes far more victims then access to guns prevents and it always inherently will. In that environment, a predator intent on committing a crime will always have one, and a victim only ever might have one.

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      • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Maybe so, but we live in a world where guns exist. Choosing to disarm oneself doesn’t change that, and certain things can change the math.

        There was a violent incident at a nearby house, and it took police 40 minutes to arrive because I live in the middle of nowhere, so right off the “call the police” option essentially doesn’t exist for me. I also have no kids in the house. If children come over, the gun that isn’t in the safe goes to the safe and the ammunition goes to the car. I am not suicidal. For me, gun ownership makes sense where it doesn’t for others.

        If I lived in a country where guns didn’t outnumber people it may not make sense. Though with the current government I also wouldn’t give mine up if they were outlawed.

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      • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Thanks for your hypothetical but I’m speaking from first hand experience. When you have the same type of experience and aren’t just speaking off a statistics sheet you might change your tune. Most people do.

        Personally I think we need massive gun control reform. But I don’t live in that world, or a world where that’s going to happen in my lifetime even. So I’ll continue to do what’s most practical for the reality I live in.

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  • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Guns have caused a lot of harm. They seem evil until you need one. I was hiking solo in the wilderness once and was carrying one for wildlife and was attacked by a homeless guy. I shoved him away and pulled it out and he ran off.

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    • WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The same thing happened to me but I pulled my dick out.

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      • Buffalobuffalo@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Thats a weird nickname for a gun.

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    • MrFinnbean@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I cant but wonder if bear spray would have had the same effect.

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      • chiliedogg@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        In my particular case I didn’t actually have to shoot him because he feared the gun, and I doubt a spray can would have had the same effect.

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  • billbasher@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    A girl just got killed by a mountain lion on a hike not 2 miles from me. A gun could have prevented this. I do live in the mountains so like this may not be common

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  • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    People who have been in situations where having a gun would have made things better tend to not be around anymore to post about it.

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