Comment on YSK about Israel’s “Samson Option”: The Nuclear Target List that includes American and European cities…

Tedesche@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• BanMe@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yep criticizing Israel = antisematism, thats a healthy attitude that doesn’t at all backfire against the Jewish people and faith.

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  • Tedesche@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I never said that. I’m plenty critical of Israel. I said that singling them out for something basically every country with nuclear weapons does makes no sense. Unless, you’re an antisemite.

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    • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Every other nuclear power does not have a literal plan to nuke their allies. Stop acting like a Zionist.

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      • deafboy@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Oh, boy! If you like long podcasts, Behind the Bastards did a 5 parter about the history of the nuclear programs.

        spoiler: USA kinda did have a literal program to nuke random cities possibly unrelated to the potential source of the attack.

        omny.fm/…/part-one-the-men-who-might-have-killed-…

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      • Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m not so sure about that now that I consider it. Military loves contingencies. If USA were to get invaded by Russia or China and somehow was losing and no one helped us for some reason, wouldn’t we threaten Europe or Canada etc? I can see crazy contingency plans being drawn up for dire circumstances

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• Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Equating the state of Israel with the Jewish faith is antisemitism. Not all Jews are Israeli, not all Israelis are Jewish, and the state of Israel doesn’t speak for all Jews.

  If anyone speaks Hebrew please correct me, but it’s been explained to me that in Jewish tradition, there isn’t a single word for Israel the way it’s used in the West. You have the land Jewish people lived on historically, the people descended from Abraham who inhabit(/ed) that land, and you have the modern state of Israel. Overlap between the three definitions doesn’t imply they’re the same thing.

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  • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I speak Hebrew and you’re not 100% correct here. “Eretz yisrael” (land of Israel) is mentioned in the Torah and all sorts of other religious texts. There’s also the word “Yerushalayim”, which is Jerusalem. That’s mentioned a lot as well.

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    • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m stretching my memory here but from what I recall this wasn’t based only on the Torah, but on traditional Jewish philosophical thought as well; I couldn’t tell you whether this was, say, 11th or 18th century philosophy, though.

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      • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Ya the phrase is definitely from 1400s or so Jewish philosophy, not strictly from the Torah. You can think of it as Ashkenazi DLC

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• Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Not to bomb there allies, this only “makes sense” if the country is getting invaded and they want to punish there allies for not defending them. The US cannot be invaded and even if they were they aren’t dependent on there allies to defend them, same with USSR/Russia.

  Maybe France or the UK mulled over bombing dc if the Russians invaded but they probably didn’t look too far as that would take away any chance for a d-day 2 that could free them. It also may bring about a counterattack by the US, and France has shown in WWII they would rather surrender to the enemy then see Paris burn.

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• WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You’re just a Nazi that wants to force all Jews to move to Israel.

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