Comment on Leaker Who Apple Is Suing Says 'Screw It,' Here's the Foldable iPhone Early

Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• scratchee@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The camera bump sure isn’t going away for a folding phone. cameras have fundamental volume requirements to maintain quality, if they don’t think they can justify making the normal iPhone thick enough to enclose the camera then there’s no way in hell they’ll think the folding phones doubled width can include it, if anything you’d expect it to be more prominent on a folding model

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• acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  how do you propose removing it?

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  • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The marketing about it being an incredibly thin phone was a misstep - it just looked absurd to have such a chunky lump stuck onto it, and it felt very much like they were attempting a have cake / eat cake situation by claiming incredible camera stats (which werent very good) and an amazingly thin phone, and then that giant electronic bump had an external lens on it too.

    Had it just been an ugly phone, I doubt it would have mer with anywhere near the dame criticism, but all the adcopy about how thin it was overtop of photos where you could see it had a giant lump on it felt really dishonest, and if this article is accurate it may count among the biggest apple flops ever.

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    • SARGE@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What elegance might even an extra millimeter of chassis space produced?

      People really don’t seem to understand that in the electronics world, one single millimeter can make worlds of difference.

      You absolutely can cram so much more stuff in “dumber” electronics, but phones are even more constricted in design, because they need to send and receive signals of different types, so feedback and signal noise are concerns.

      Adding in even slightly more space allows for much better design, because you have more tolerances to reduce signal noise. It allows dozens of wires for camera sensors to route better. A 20% longer battery life. Heck, just being slightly more ergonomic and less droppable is a bonus to slightly thicker phones.

      I didn’t even consider signal noise until I got into fpv drones and rc stuff, it can mame a ton of difference if you have a single wire 2mm out of place. (and crash your drone because the motor interfered with your antenna)

      Thiner≠better.

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      • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        wildly appropriate username here.

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    • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      are you talking about the Air? last time i checked all iphone models have a camera bump.

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    • QuarterSwede@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The marketing had nothing to do with it not selling. Pick one up, yeah it’s thin but it’s also a bar of soap to hold. Plus a ton of deal breaking trade off like less battery life and poor camera system compared to the alternative iPhone 17s/Pros.

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  • 0x0@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    making an extremely thick phone

    lol how is 11mm extremely thick

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    • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      how is it not?

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      • 0x0@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You said so yourself.

        If phone cases make the bump (and perceived problem) disappear, everyone must be using extremely thick phones already.

        You can’t have both, not that I agree with 11mm being extremely thick anyway, case or not.

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  • SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No thicker than very popular and successful phones from just 5 years ago. They can use the extra space for a larger battery, so they dont have to nerf performance to maintain stability in older phones. They can also use the space to restore repairability.

    But probably not for a folding phone, since making both sides that thick will probably be too much.

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    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Phones 5 years ago have lightyears worse cameras than phones today.

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      • SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        But their thickness can accomidate todays cameras.

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  • frizzo@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Lol “extremely thick phone”. Get that apple boot, you got it to your gills this time. Only when it’s razor thin and cuts the hands of the unworthy will then your lust be satisfied.

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• aeronmelon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It does not surprise me that the Air is literally the folding phone without the second screen.

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  • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It slightly does me, given that the Air was (apparently) a huge commercial flop. You’d think they’d revisit the soundly mocked design instead of recycling it.

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    • warm@kbin.earth ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It was a flop because no one really wants thinner phones, they are harder to use. The iPhone Air was also extremely overpriced and missing basic features a phone a quarter of the price has.

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      • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes, which is why you’d think they would revisit the design.

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• FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The stupid camera bump thing they totally didn’t steal from Google

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  • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    are we really going to start counting who stole what in all smartphone design.

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    • cardfire@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      “These assholes included an antenna and SIM slot again!?! HTC did that last season. So unoriginal.”

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      • Matt@lemdro.id ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I wish they still included a SIM card slot.

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    • NachBarcelona@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Idk, explaining how the crap iPhone is 99 % IP theft doesn’t really lead anywhere.

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      • stoy@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I sort of assumed that these days design patents are mostly ignored by smartphone companies.

        After a while it just makes sense to drop the legal stuff and stop wasting money on constant lawsuits.

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  • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Man anyone else remember the Nexus 6P?

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  • warm@kbin.earth ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This folding iPhone also looks like the Pixel Fold

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• bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I mean, being stupid thin is something that a foldable phone has to be, so that it ends up being normal-ish thickness when folded. So it tracks that they’d design it like their ultra-thin phone.

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  • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But it’s not stupid thin, it’s got a giant lump on it?

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    • warm@kbin.earth ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thinness should be defined by it's thickest point.

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      • JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Image

        No no is clearly the thinnest iPhone ever, just look at it, can’t see anything wrong calling it that. So thin. Amazing, how can apple do such a marvel of engineering.

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      • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        5.6 - 9 - 5.6 waist - hip - bust

        If it’s good enough for girls it’s good enough for phones

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