already bought paramount, and trying to take over WB to get access to CNN.
Comment on Oracle made a $300 billion bet on OpenAI. It's paying the price.
LostWanderer@fedia.io 3 days ago
Couldn't have happened to a worse company! Hope it hurts even worse later on and fractures the Execucultist's will to shill AI further. 😈
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 days ago
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world 3 days ago
300 billion on OpenAI? Why? LLMs in general are trash, but ChatGPT isn’t even the best LLM
hayvan@piefed.world 3 days ago
GPT goes beyond chat, copilot code generation is also based on that. They also have generative visual stuff, like Sora.
Then there is brand recognition I guess, tech bros and finance bros seem to love OpenAI.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Brand recognition cannot be overstated.
If there was a better-than-YouTube alternative right now, YouTube would still dominate.
If there was a phone OS superior to Android and iOS, they would both still dominate.
If there was a search engine that worked far better than Google, Google would still dominate.
The average person won’t look into LLM reasoning benchmarks. They’ll just use the one they know, ChatGPT.
MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
But Windows and Google can shove it in your face because you’re already on their platform and they are doing that. You have to go to openai website.
Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Youtube and android have strong network effects. I don’t think openai has anything close to comparable. They tried I am sure, I recall an app platform they added to chatgpt, but I haven’t heard of it in ages so I assume it hasn’t been a dominant factor.
I also don’t get the impression there is enough training material available exclusively to openai it’d be such a factor.
echodot@feddit.uk 3 days ago
I don’t think openAI is as well-known a Google.
wewbull@feddit.uk 3 days ago
You are comparing very well established brands to a company in a sector that is far less established. Yes, OpenAI is the most well known, but not to the degree of $300B.
RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
What they know is Google though. Most normal people doing a search now just take the Gemini snippet at the top. They don’t know or care what AI even is really. I don’t know how OpenAI can possibly compete with web search defaults.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 days ago
OpenAI isn‘t very good in any of those categories and they still have no business model. Subscriptions would have to be ridiculously high for them to turn a profit. Users would just leave. But to be fair that goes for all AI companies at the moment. None of their models can do what they promise and they‘re all bleeding money.
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yeah, I figured brand recognition was part of it. Everyon’e heard of ChatGPT- hell, last time I checked, ChatGPT was the number 1 app on the planet- but Claude isn’t nearly as popular, even though (in my opinion) it’s a lot better with code. It’s just a lot more thorough than the slop ChatGPT spits out
LostWanderer@fedia.io 2 days ago
The only good LLM is one that is being used by a highly specialized field to search useful information and not in consumer hands in the form of a plagiarism engine otherwise known as "AI". Techbros took something that once had the potential to be useful and made it a whole shitty affair. Thanks, I hate it.
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world 2 days ago
idk man LLMs help me code bro
LostWanderer@fedia.io 2 days ago
Oof, sad, but you do you...
Master@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Chatgpt is the name recognition brands. Like calling all electric cars a tesla
HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Normie here. Which one is?
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 2 days ago
The one that I developed and costs $300 a week. Want it to gaslight you? Done. Make up shit? Done. Shout at you? Done. Randomly stop working while still taking your money? Done.
alias_qr_rainmaker@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Not sure, but I hear the Claude Super Duper Extreme Fucking Pro ($200/month) is like the Ferrari of LLM assisted coding
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 2 days ago
As someone who works in network engineering support and has seen Claude completely fuck up people’s networks with bad advice: LOL.
Literally had an idiot just copying and pasting commands from Claude into their equipment and brought down a network of over 1000 people the other day.
It hallucinated entire executables that didn’t exist. It asked them to create init scripts for services that already had one. It told them to bypass the software UI, that had the functionality they needed, and start adding routes directly to the system kernel.
Every LLM is the same bullshit guessing machine.
dondelelcaro@lemmy.world 2 days ago
So expensive, looks great, takes significant capital to maintain, and anyone who has one uses something else when they actually need to do something useful.
RightEdofer@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
What’s with tech people always stating (marketing) things as akin to high end sports cars. The state of AI is more like arguing over which donkey is best, lol.
sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago