Comment on the game "Horses" now barred on Steam, Epic and Humble Bundle

Kraiden@piefed.social ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• markz@suppo.fi ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It was a child doing pony play, riding a naked adult man-horse. The dev claimed it was not sexual.

  This was removed later but it’s the build you send for review that gets reviewed. Other stores got a later version, hence why it passed on those.

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  • cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I haven’t heard about the details, what’s your source on that?

    As far as I recall, the developer said he didn’t know the actual reason for the ban.

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    • markz@suppo.fi ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Some previous article which contained valve’s response, and a description of the scene. I didn’t find it immediately, but I’ll check again.

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  • dukemirage@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What’s CSAM?

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    • markz@suppo.fi ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Child Sexual Abuse Material. Legalese for child porn and adjacent things.

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      • SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I also was wondering why, it's always been called CP and then recently they changed acronym 🤷

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    • Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Pretty sure it’s child sexual abuse material

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• REDACTED@infosec.pub ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’m almost thru the game and I did not notice any sexual conducts with minors

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  • Kraiden@piefed.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yep, I’ve since read some other articles and it seems there’s more to this specific case

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    • alehel@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There’s been so many vague articles about what happened, I’m not sure we’ll get a clear picture at this point.

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• Deestan@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The devs were not told what needed to change even after asking, so they tried to remove anything that they suspected could be taken the wrong way, asked for reconsideration or clarification, but receive none.

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  • KaChilde@sh.itjust.works ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This is false.

    eurogamer.net/its-extremely-frustrating-and-also-…

    They submitted to steam, who asked for a preliminary build of the game (one would assume due to concerns about the content). The build provided included a small child reading a naked man like a horse.

    Steam denied the game based on the inclusion of CSAM, and advised the devs directly of this decision in what the devs call “an automated email”, as if steam is out there personally hand writing rejection letters for every failed game out there.

    The devs claim to have changed the scene, but it seems that Steam has a zero-tolerance policy on games that feature CSAM. And, I mean, Fair.

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    • douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It seems a stretch to call (at least as far as I understand it), a naked (fictional) character riding a horse CSAM?

      Or am I missing something here???

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      • despoticruin@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You are, it wasn’t a horse in the build they sent to Steam, it was a naked man. If you have a naked girl on a horse I think that qualifies too, you have an underage character that’s naked.

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• Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Forming an opinion from your made up justification is a sign of poor judgement

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  • Kraiden@piefed.social ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s a direct quote from the article you’re commenting on, and that my opinion is based on.

    But please, don’t let me stop you from attacking my character instead of my argument

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    • Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I was talking about your comment, not the quote. Weird that you assumed otherwise

      “I’m assuming they don’t mean a suggestive camera pan, but actually something problematic on screen, in which case, I totally support the ban. Devs were given the opportunity to change it, and they said no. Ban away imho. The fact that this is considered controversial is pretty disturbing to me.”

      Devs were not given the opportunity to change it as it wasn’t there in the first place

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      • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes it was

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