Comment on Fuck Microsoft
SW42@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I mean at this point why stick with Microsoft? I get needing a particular software only able to run in windows but other than that there’s really no need.
Hate to be that guy, since I only use Linux on personal machines, but I use windows at my current job. Why? Because the stuff I develop only has a windows version. Whilst it’d be possible to cross compile, it’s just more friction, and it’s easier to just develop on the target platform.
And let’s be real, lots of people don’t have the luxury of a choice in their jobs to begin with. So that’s why. (and also why the strong need to vent, seeing as this is forced onto them)
@TriangleSpecialist @SW42 use to be in a job like that, the reason was that the still works in a software that was made for windows, in delphi, and start from scratch to be cross platform was obviously not an option.. But any software started the develop today is easly cross platform...even the ones that arent... Well wine is making miracles this days
Oh I also use windows on my work machine and not anywhere else. The enterprise version is not full of crap and doesn’t force AI down your throat.
Lol that’s only because your windows admins are constantly playing defense against MS always introducing new “features” in “minor” patches.
Even the Pro version allows GPO to block all the AI crap. I did this at home because I run a small business that needs windows applications.
Damn, I find it pretty bad already, can’t imagine the pro or home versions being even worse.
If it is bad on your enterprise that is because someone isn’t disabling it in the group policies.
It can be as bad as Home if you let it.
If you think your chosen OS doesn’t have irritations of a similar magnitude either you’re looking past them or they just don’t irritate you.
My Linux laptop has a problem where, when unsuspended while docked, tends to lose the dock in such a way that the USB devices attached to it become unusable - even if they are then plugged in directly; the USB stack just gets completely broken until reboot. It’s really annoying - but I put up with it, because there are other things about Linux I like. If I had switched from Windows to Linux because of a nag screen that I could just click to get rid of and this was what I got in return, I’d be back to Windows in a flash.
At this point I’ve been using Linux for multiple decades and would never go back. Not even if Windows became genuinely better. I mean, it has improved a lot since when I switched away, but I’m used to Linux now and it’s comfortable.
And that’s what people don’t get: Windows, for most people, is comfortable. Comfortable and good enough. There are many reasons why it’s not good enough for me, but most people don’t share the mindset behind those reasons, so they don’t apply to them.
So hopefully that explains “why stick with Microsoft”.
Oh, I get that, it was more of a retro rival question because I read all those headlines about the shit Microsoft constantly tries to pull. I get comfortable and I’m sure there are some problems and growing pains but if you’re ready to get out of the comfort zone I think it is worth it.
I had the opposite issue where canon decided to stop supporting a scanner with incompatible drivers for windows 10. Linux and macOS were able to use it OOTB without me having to tinker with it. Swings and roundabouts I guess.
I’m not a lemming and am not shoving anything down anyone’s throat, but I guess people are apparently really triggered when someone merely brings it up.
I’m sure asbestos housing was also very comfortable until people started getting cancer.
Do you want to trim my hedge with that non-secuteur?
I’m disabled (one usable hand, among other things). I need my mouse software to be able to map buttons to keys on my keyboard (and it must have individual profiles per application, and it must auto switch based on the active window) for me to be able to play shooters and similar.
I have tried many times in the past 20 years to switch, but I always had to come back. I installed bazzite to help a friend transition from w10, and to be able to talk them through any issues they might come across. I used this opportunity to again see how doable it would be, temporary dual booting.
In addition to the mouse, I don’t use my mobos onboard audio, instead using two creative sound blaster cards - one for my surround sound (main output), and the other for voice chat or if I have to be quiet (late night gaming). The drivers for both cards fail - L/R channels work as expected, but RL/RR/FC/Sub are wrong. I tried for two days to fix it, overriding settings, trying different settings in the UI, different overrides, switch cards around to see if they work correctly when outputting to the other hardware… And searching online, this has been a problem for years, maybe a decade+ across many distros. Okay, so, it’s not a ‘fix’ but what if we get new sound cards… Asus has some… Aaaaand survey says they are shit in Linux too. What about looking for some Linux specific hardware? The only company I found had cards for $1k+, and geared more towards audio creation. Hell no, you’d have to be insane.
That’s a hard stop, as I’m not about to give up my audio system because of botched drivers thst are seemingly never getting a fix. But similarly, I have a ThinkPad with a 5G modem in it. I tried a dozen distros before begrudgingly settling on Kubuntu, as it was the only system that would actually work (see the modem, interact with it, fcc unlock after terminal commands, and actually transfer data).
Linux has this bubble of users who are the typical norm - they need the basics, and nothing more. Which is fine, I’m happy for them, but damn does the experience suck shit if you aren’t in thst bubble. I remember the days when I’d have to wrap windows wifi drivers to get online, or sleep wouldn’t work, or an update would brick the system (or grub, oh fuck me I’m having ptsd flashbacks) lll, or even stuff like stereo in and out would be broken out of the box. And there often wasn’t a guide to fix this shit, it was just ‘have fun’. It has come a good way, but there is so much that still needs work.
And, as my friend found out, while all his games were native or compatable via proton or lutris, some needed to be built from source… Even though the fucking dev offers executables for windows, and could easily do the same for Debian-based systems, ready to go for those users… But no, here are some half-assed instructions that are out of date, glhf. Ugh…
There’s a ton of other things, but those are recent - like, within the last 3-6 months recent, and are real world examples of why some have to stay chained to windows.
Now if anyone wants to patch the shitty drivers for my sound blasters, I could actually try to maintain and actually use the install. But until then, I’ve got to use what actually works.
You just claimed it’s not possible to have working sound on Linux even if buying new hardware. This is… False. To say the least.
…no? I said I searched for sound cards that are made by other companies, like Asus, that also have similar problems. And then I looked up if there are any manufacturers that claim to support Linux, if which I only found one, and who charged an absurd amount of money since their target market is creators, not consumers.
Like, I’m not sure how to got to that conclusion, but it was wholly on your own.
So I reached the wrong conclusion, but you did a lot of research and found no one who made a sound card that can reliably work on Linux except one overpriced company.
This is what you yourself reiterated. Not sure where the disconnect is.
My onboard sound works fine. Purchased the hardware years before deciding to even try Linux. You are trying to make one specific scenario out to be the norm but it’s clearly not.
Fair point! In the end, everyone needs to use what works best for them. I do concede that I’m not really familiar with accessibility issues and I perceive the accessibility options to be lacking in the distros I know. Maybe it will change in the future and I hope it does :) thank you for your contribution!
Ight you can’t use your specific and statistically small example to label a majority of Linux users as just a bubble. It sucks what you’re dealing with, but it’ll only get fixed if more people switch to Linux and talk about.
represents minority
tells that other minority shouldn’t be tolerated
Many such cases
I can - they asked for an example, I provided one. Most users don’t need to use custom input controls, or aren’t running a home theater system. They are in the bubble of ‘typical’, and they don’t think about situations other than their own (why would they?), thus people like myself who don’t fit in the bubble struggle.
Also do note the fact that my sound card issue has been a known issue through forum posts for basically a decade. Like sure, eventually sure, but it’s been a decade now and my current experience matches that of years ago, so…
Also miss me with that fake sympathy. I’ve heard ‘it’s sucks what you’re going through’ or something very close to it, for yeaaaars now, and the inevitable ‘but’ just tells me ‘that was a lie but I wanted to pretend to care’. Every time, always the same thing.
Demdaru@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Lemmings are pissimg me off with pushing Linux down my throat to the level of gaining hatred to Linux through mere correlation xD
Even though I planned on switching before that!
jackr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 months ago
illumos or maybe plan9front are good options if you have somewhat limited requirements
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Lying is bad.
Demdaru@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Wholeheartedly agree ^^
SW42@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Hakuna matata :) no need to get riled up. Use what you want, I use Linux and macOS at home and windows at work.
Demdaru@lemmy.world 3 months ago
You’re right, although cultish behaviour and straight up animosity towards non-linux users is tiring tho, that’s all. Nice to see nicer comments here for a change ^^
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Even if they aren’t lying, if they’re so much of a contrarian as to do the opposite of whatever they hear, they don’t deserve Linux.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
BSD?